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Tourney                                                         Date            Teamname        North           South           East            West            Score  
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=6973-1412445649    10/4/2014       *   CAYNE  *    sillafu         jec             canooz          JeffHand        -25
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=6973-1412445649    10/4/2014       * BBO FORUMS *  phil            MrAce           antonylee       RunemPard       25
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=6380-1411841271    9/27/2014       * CAYNE *       sillafu         smispi          kennye          dougs           25
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=6380-1411841271    9/27/2014       * BBO FORUMS*   ritong          diana_eva       jfaria          the_clown       -25
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=4299-1410631246    9/13/2014       *    CAYNE   *  bridgegoth      jec             tsadek          sillafu         92
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=4299-1410631246    9/13/2014       * BBO FORUMS *  Stoicaadi       aurora          kristen33       jillybean       -92
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3261-1410026441    9/6/2014        *    CAYNE    * sillafu         jec             pisoy           dougs           58
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3261-1410026441    9/6/2014        * BBO FORUMS *  huyou959        yunling         GaelClichy      f0rest_zzy      -58
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=7590-1408903303    8/24/2014       *    CAYNE  *   sillafu         JEC             kuky2           pisoy           50
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=7590-1408903303    8/24/2014       * BBO FORUMS *  lorne50         gordontd        maasik_jr       phoenix214      -50
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=4690-1404583221    7/5/2014           CAYNE        llorenzo        jec             mikaelrim       olarim          43
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=4690-1404583221    7/5/2014        BBO FORUMS      hrothgar        cherdano        helene_t        diana_eva       -43
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3704-1403978179    6/28/2014           CAYNE       sillafu         jec             tsadek          bondd           32
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3704-1403978179    6/28/2014       BBO FORUMS      gwnn            hefaistos       the_clown       lesh            -32
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2412-1403373785    6/21/2014         CAYNE         sillafu         JEC             tsadek          bondd           20
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2412-1403373785    6/21/2014         BBO FORUMS    nige1           sooth           columbo91       gszeszycki      -20
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=24-1402769014      6/14/2014          CAYNE        sillafu         jec             canooz          ulven           14
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=24-1402769014      6/14/2014       BBO FORUMS      the_clown       lesh            guymath         artk78          -14
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=9173-1400954884    5/24/2014         BBO FORUMS    hrothgar        MrAce           helene_t        diana_eva       -13
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=9173-1400954884    5/24/2014         CAYNE         sillafu         jec             ctuncok         vagabond3       13
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=6910-1400349839    5/17/2014          CAYNE        sillafu         jec             kennye          dougs           61
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=6910-1400349839    5/17/2014         BBO FORUMS    jsabate         fluffy          raff90          lupoveloce      -61
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2353-1383415543    11/2/2013       CAYNE           nevaio          jec             eldad           ronpa           81
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2353-1383415543    11/2/2013       BB FORUMS       pcooper         julies          jillybean       kristen33       -81
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3663-1382810452    10/26/2013      CAYNE           sillafu         jec             MrAce           Harmon          27
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3663-1382810452    10/26/2013      BB FORUMS       NaeosPsy        phoenix214      diana_eva       hrothgar        -27
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=586-1382205906     10/19/2013      CAYNE           sillafu         jec             netfar          tsadek          89
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=586-1382205906     10/19/2013      BB FORUMS       mbodell         elianna         awm             sieong          -89
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=6717-1381600864    10/12/2013      CAYNE           sillafu         jec             apron           moki 011        90
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=6717-1381600864    10/12/2013      BB FROMS        krivents        greenman        jillybean       kristen33       -90
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3405-1378577114    9/7/2013        CAYNE           llorenzo        jec             apron           moki 011        65
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3405-1378577114    9/7/2013        BB FORUMS       kfitz           gszeszycki      jillybean       kristen33       -65
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2484-1374948172    7/27/2013       CAYNE           nevaio          jec             asensi          gszeszycki      69
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2484-1374948172    7/27/2013       BB FORUMS       jillybean       kristen33       artk78          guymath         -69
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=1524-1372528949    6/29/2013       CAYNE           bridgegoth      jec             moki 011        Harmon          53
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=1524-1372528949    6/29/2013       BB FORUMS       greenman        rathia          kristen33       jillybean       -53
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=9314-1371924007    6/22/2013       CAYNE           smispi          jec             artin           catou           95
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=9314-1371924007    6/22/2013       BB FORUMS       abcxl           gszeszycki      the_clown       jfaria          -95
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=5007-1370714632    6/8/2013        BB FORUMS       kfitz           gszeszycki      sylviafay       francine21      -10
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=5007-1370714632    6/8/2013        CAYNE           ronpa           jec             jahr2           jurekk          10
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3560-1370109895    6/1/2013        CAYNE           ronpa           jec             moki 011        apron           9
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=3560-1370109895    6/1/2013        BB FORUMS       glfolgy         gszeszycki      artk78          guymath         -9
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=926-1369505485     5/25/2013       CAYNE           bridgegoth      jec             moki 011        apron           60
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=926-1369505485     5/25/2013       BB FORUMS       thearb          tylere          gszeszycki      abcxL           -60
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=9635-1368295397    5/11/2013       CAYNE           bridgegoth      jec             moki 011        stewball        31
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=9635-1368295397    5/11/2013       BB FORUMS       cameron_1       philking        keylime         precisionl      -31
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2069-1367085539    4/27/2013       CAYNE           ronpa           jec             apron           moki 011        28
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2069-1367085539    4/27/2013       BB FORUMS       gszeszycki      nige1           philking        cameron_1       -28
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2358-1365271906    4/6/2013        CAYNE           llorenzo        jec             bpascal45       tsadek          42
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=2358-1365271906    4/6/2013        BB FORUMS       0    COBAN      columbo91       rosenovobg      neduddki        -42
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=9823-1362855611    3/9/2013        CAYNE           bridgegoth      jec             beccamin        gunnarhall      -4
http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=9823-1362855611    3/9/2013        BB FORUMS       the_clown       jfaria          gszeszycki      runempard       4


## Date         BBF Open Room           BBF Closed Room         Result
~~ ~~~~         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~
33 2013-02-23 greenman-dakota byl jillybean-kristen33   84-113
32 2013-02-09 paulg-gipsona     frederic-offshape
31 2013-01-26 mbodell-javabean    the_clown-jfaria      41-83
30 2013-01-19 mickyb-slmplicity   minimonkey-cousin it  28-84
29 2013-01-12 p_marlowe-eblem   jillybean-kristen33   22-81
28 2013-01-05 straube-foobar      jillybean-hrothgar    28-91
27 2012-12-29 mgoetze-cherdano    BBradley62-gszeszycki 57-101
26 2012-12-22 broze-ibraves     Raff90-koncik           30-69
24 2012-11-10 CSGibson-JeffFord76 awm-sieong            47-88
23 2012-11-03 awm-sieong          elianna-mbodell       48-70
22 2012-10-27 jillybean-kristen33 ???                           lost
21 2012-10-20 gnasher-catch22   finch-jallerton         lost by 65
20 2012-10-13 diana_eva-jjsb      gszeszycki-RunemPard  50-108
19 2012-10-06 mgoetze-jschafer    gszeszycki-RunemPard  lost
18 2012-09-22 TimG-goodwinsr      benlessard-zzayats    20-104
17 2012-09-08 awm-sieong          jillybean-kristen33   47-67
16 2012-07-01 jlall-joegrue     jdonn-rogerclee         lost
15 2012-06-30 mayors-finch        gnasher-catch22       lost
14 2012-06-23 foobar-straube      jillybean-kristen33   lost by 52
13 2012-06-16 awm-elianna               mbodell-javabean      65-96
12 2012-06-09 RunemPard-AyunuS    benlessard-marc2007   11-137
11 2012-05-26 gnasher-catch22   mgoetze-gwnn          lost by 73
10 2012-05-19 barmar-inquiry      mbodell-javabean      lost by 56
 9 2012-05-06 phil-markleon     gnasher-catch22         27-101
 8 2012-04-29 finch-mayors        mgoetze-gwnn          32-41
 7 2012-04-22 han-cherdano/BOC    gnasher-mgoetze       63-116
 6 2012-04-15 han-gnasher               mgoetze-gszeszycki    38-87
 5 2012-03-29 levin-jodizc        MickyB-Slmplicity     53-62
 4 2012-03-03 gnasher-catch22   Phil-MrAce            28-64
 3 2012-03-01 barmar-inquiry      benlessard-zzayats    32-117
 2 2012-02-23 MrAce-cherdano      wank-Fluffy/Phil      lost
 1 2012-02-16 Fluffy-wank               MickyB-Slmplicity       37-69


Most appearances:

gnasher 7
mgoetze 5
catch22 5
jillybean 5
gszeszycki 4
awm 4
kristen33 4
mbodell 4

Most wins:

(Empty list, unfortunately)

Feel free to post any factual corrections (notably, I may have mixed up open and closed a few times). I plan to update this as new matches happen.
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Posted 2013-January-02, 12:59

Thanks. Match 5 was Levin+Jodizc in the open room, result was 53-62.
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Posted 2013-January-02, 13:32

Nicely done. Were they all 28 boards?
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Posted 2013-January-02, 13:39

View Postbroze, on 2013-January-02, 13:32, said:

Nicely done. Were they all 28 boards?

Yes, I think so.
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Posted 2013-January-25, 00:22

match 10 was lose by 56. I have my hands and contract results saved, but not team mates or IMP scores.
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Posted 2013-January-25, 06:51

In the absence of an entry in the "Most Wins" section, perhaps we should have a "Best Result" section instead. That is Match 5 (levin-jodizc and MickyB-Slmplicity) and Match 8 (finch-mayors and mgoetze-gwnn) which were both lost by less than 10 IMPs.
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Posted 2013-January-25, 08:12

I've watched a few of the matches. JEC usually has a Serbian pair (Apron and Moki) in the CR.

They have an uncanny nose for slams, bidding the close ones that make and staying out of those that do not. It seems there are about 2-3 of those per match, so if you aren't in heat one, you are spotting this team 20-30 every match.
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Posted 2013-January-25, 11:17

View PostPhil, on 2013-January-25, 08:12, said:

you are spotting this team 20-30 every match.

Since most of the matches were lost by much more than this, that's obviously not their only advantage.

Does anyone know JEC's overall track record in all his matches? I don't kibitz them as much as I used to, but my gut feeling is that he wins at least 90% of the time, and usually by a pretty good margin.

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Posted 2013-January-28, 01:45

View PostZelandakh, on 2013-January-25, 06:51, said:

In the absence of an entry in the "Most Wins" section, perhaps we should have a "Best Result" section instead. That is Match 5 (levin-jodizc and MickyB-Slmplicity) and Match 8 (finch-mayors and mgoetze-gwnn) which were both lost by less than 10 IMPs.


Based on the 25 matches with results listed above [I.e., not counting 22, 19, 16, 15, or 2], on average, we lose by just over 51 IMPs (around 1.83 IMP/board). Our top 5 results are:

1. lost by 9 (5 2012-03-29 levin-jodizc MickyB-Slmplicity 53-62)
2. lost by 9 (8 2012-04-29 finch-mayors mgoetze-gwnn 32-41)
3. lost by 20 (17 2012-09-08 awm-sieong jillybean-kristen33 47-67)
4. lost by 22 (23 2012-11-03 awm-sieong elianna-mbodell 48-70)
5. lost by 31 (13 2012-06-16 awm-elianna mbodell-javabean 65-96)

So if you can lose by just 1 IMP a board you can make the top 5 (top 20%). And yes, to Phil and barmar's points, most loses are by more than 20-30 each match.
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Posted 2013-February-23, 16:20

View PostMbodell, on 2013-January-28, 01:45, said:

Based on the 25 matches with results listed above [I.e., not counting 22, 19, 16, 15, or 2], on average, we lose by just over 51 IMPs (around 1.83 IMP/board). Our top 5 results are:

1. lost by 9 (5 2012-03-29 levin-jodizc MickyB-Slmplicity 53-62)
2. lost by 9 (8 2012-04-29 finch-mayors mgoetze-gwnn 32-41)
3. lost by 20 (17 2012-09-08 awm-sieong jillybean-kristen33 47-67)
4. lost by 22 (23 2012-11-03 awm-sieong elianna-mbodell 48-70)
5. lost by 29 (33 2013-02-23 GreenMan-Dakota Byl jillybean-kristen33 84-113)


Woulda been a lot closer with a better pair in the open room. :) jillybean and kristen33 played a great game.
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Posted 2013-June-01, 14:56

Mgoetze, please update these results :)
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Posted 2013-August-30, 17:19

View Postnige1, on 2013-June-01, 14:56, said:

Mgoetze, please update these results :)

I'll be happy to edit the original post if someone tells me what to put there, I don't think I'll be searching through the forum threads for the results myself though, sorry.
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Posted 2013-October-23, 08:20

I will look for others later when I have time...but #34 was...

the_clown & jfaria
RunemPard & gszeszycki

34-30 IMPs
WIN!
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Posted 2014-June-24, 15:25

If anyone has a LOT of time on their hands and wants to collect results to update this thread, I'll update it. Email me what you've got at diana at bridgebase dot com please.

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Posted 2014-October-04, 16:01

RunemPard+anthonylee / MrAce+phil 94-69 (W) October 4th, 2014
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Posted 2014-October-04, 16:52

amazing well done guys :)
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Posted 2014-October-06, 09:07

Updated list of results (thanks to Georgi who helped me retrieve the older matches).

URLs to results for TMs older than June 1st 2013 aren't working anymore.

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Posted 2014-October-28, 14:23

I went through all the results posted in the OP and updated the most appearances/wins for what was provided. I thought we won another match somewhere but I don't see it there?


0 COBAN ---- L
abcxL ------ LL
anthonylee - W
ArtK78 ----- LL
aurora ----- L
awm -------- LLLLL
AyunuS ----- L
barmar ----- LL
BBradley62 - L
benlessard - LLL
broze ------ L
cameron_1 -- LL
catch22 ---- LLLLL
cherdano --- LLLL
columbo91 -- LL
cousin it -- L
CSGibson --- L
dakota by1 - L
diana_eva -- LLLLL
eblem ------ L
elianna ---- LLL
f0rest_zzy - L
finch ------ LLL
Fluffy ----- LLL
foobar ----- LL
francine21 - L
frederic --- L
GaelClichy - L
gipsona ---- L
glfolgy ---- L
goodwinsr -- L
gordontd --- L
gnasher ---- LLLLLLL
greenman --- LLL
guymath ---- LL
gwnn ------- LLL
gszeszycki - LLLLWLLLLLLL
han -------- LL
hefaistos -- L
helene_t --- LL
hrothgar --- LLLL
huyou959 --- L
ibraves ---- L
jallerton -- L
javabean --- LLL
jdonn ------ L
JeffFord76 - L
jfaria ----- LWLL
jillybean -- LLLLLLLLLLLL
jjsb ------- L
jlall ------ L
jodizc ----- L
joegrue ---- L
jsabate ---- L
jschafer --- L
julies ----- L
keylime ---- L
kfitz ------ LL
koncik ----- L
kristen33 -- LLLLLLLLLLL
krivents --- L
inquiry ---- LL
lesh ------- L
levin ------ L
lorne50 ---- L
lupoveloce - L
maasik_jr -- L
marc2007 --- L
markleon --- L
mayors ----- LL
mbodell ---- LLLLL
mgoetze ---- LLLLLL
MickyB ----- LLL
minimonkey - L
MrAce ------ LLLW
NaeosPsy --- L
neduddki --- L
nige1 ------ LL
offshape --- L
p_marlowe -- L
paulg ------ L
pcooper ---- L
pheonix214 - LL
Phil ------- LLW
philking --- LL
PrecisionL - L
Raff90 ----- LL
rathia ----- L
ritong ----- L
rogerclee -- L
rosenovobg - L
RunemPard -- LLLWW
s1mplicity - LLL
sieong ----- LLLL
sooth ------ L
Stoicaadi -- L
straube ---- LL
sylviafay -- L
the_clown -- LWLLL
thearb ----- L
TimG ------- L
tylere ----- L
wank ------- L
yunling ---- L
zzayats ---- LL

Most Appearances:
gszeszycki - 12
jillybean -- 12
kristen33 -- 11
gnasher ---- 7
mgoetze ---- 6
awm -------- 5
catch22 ---- 5
diana_eva -- 5
mbodell ---- 5
RunemPard -- 5

Most Wins:
RunemPard -- 2
anthonylee - 1
gszeszycki - 1
jfaria ----- 1
MrAce ------ 1
Phil ------- 1
the_clown -- 1

Best Win % - Matches Played:
anthonylee - 100% -- 1
RunemPard -- 40% --- 5
Phil ------- 33.3% - 3
jfaria ----- 25% --- 4
MrAce ------ 25% --- 4
the_clown -- 20% --- 5
gszeszycki - 8.3% -- 12
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Posted 2014-October-28, 18:28

View PostRunemPard, on 2014-October-28, 14:23, said:

I went through all the results posted in the OP and updated the most appearances/wins for what was provided. I thought we won another match somewhere but I don't see it there?


CSGibson and I won a match playing with a non-forum pair when they asked for only one pair. I don't have time right now to try to track down details.
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Posted 2014-November-01, 08:34

You really should not count the matches where GODLIKE Romanians played. They were simply....just too good for all of us.
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