[rduran1216]

Teams, final day of a two day swiss

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Your auction showed partner as 0544 and a mild slam try, you end up in 6H

opening lead is heart 3, 4, 6, 9
trick two you lead diamond 2, Q, A, 3

plan the play

[Phil]

rduran1216, on 2012-December-18, 22:48, said:

Teams, final day of a two day swiss

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Your auction showed partner as 0544 and a mild slam try, you end up in 6H

opening lead is heart 3, 4, 6, 9
trick two you lead diamond 2, Q, A, 3

plan the play

The long hand didn't have the ♥T.

[CSGibson]

I would take the club hook while in dummy with the ace of diamonds. My plan is to try and get a 12th trick out of the club suit (initially), which I can do if clubs are 3-3, Kx onside, Tx or 9x on the right, which looks feasible since no opponent bidding was mentioned, and RHO looks to be long in diamonds. If the club hook wins, I will pull trump (up to 4 rounds if necessary), come back to the J of diamonds, and make my decision on what to do (strip squeeze or Kx) based on the carding and my table feel. If the club hook loses, I have some squeeze possibilities (someone has to keep a spade), so I should be able to read the club suit if it is possible to make the hand.

[rhm]

CSGibson, on 2012-December-18, 23:46, said:

I would take the club hook while in dummy with the ace of diamonds. My plan is to try and get a 12th trick out of the club suit (initially), which I can do if clubs are 3-3, Kx onside, Tx or 9x on the right, which looks feasible since no opponent bidding was mentioned, and RHO looks to be long in diamonds. If the club hook wins, I will pull trump (up to 4 rounds if necessary), come back to the J of diamonds, and make my decision on what to do (strip squeeze or Kx) based on the carding and my table feel. If the club hook loses, I have some squeeze possibilities (someone has to keep a spade), so I should be able to read the club suit if it is possible to make the hand.

I think it is better to strip West of red cards before taking the club finesse. West black suit return may be helpful:
Consider for example the following layout:

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After ♦J to the ace, simply draw trumps ending in dummy and play a club to the queen.
What can West return when in with the ♣K?
A club return from West now is fatal and any spade but the king exposes him to a black suit squeeze.
Win the spade ace(diamond discard from dummy), ruff a spade, ♦J, ruff a spade and cash the ♦K)
West best return is the ♠K, but few defenders are good enough to find this.
If West is good enough for this return declarer could be up to the job as well.
Ruff the spade king and play the ♣J followed by another club to the ace.
This trump squeezes East between diamonds and spades.

Rainer Herrmann

[rduran1216]

I sat west, here's the full hand

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[rduran1216]

im gonna downvote the lack of love for this delicious play

[rhm]

rduran1216, on 2012-December-23, 01:18, said:

im gonna downvote the lack of love for this delicious play

Not clear whether declarer should have gone down after your play.
Dumping a trick on defense just for fun without a clear analytical purpose in mind can of course have unpredictable side effects.
Sometimes the trick comes back (Grosvenor gambit) and in a few cases with interest, the latter being a bit more likely when declarer is competent.
However, in the vast majority of cases the result will simply be that you killed the defense or made declarer's task much easier.
It is quite similar to psyching without purpose. When it works you call it delicious.
What do you call it when the defense lets an unmake-able contract slip through?

Rainer Herrmann+

[rduran1216]

rhm, on 2012-December-23, 06:02, said:

Not clear whether declarer should have gone down after your play.
Dumping a trick on defense just for fun without a clear analytical purpose in mind can of course have unpredictable side effects.
Sometimes the trick comes back (Grosvenor gambit) and in a few cases with interest, the latter being a bit more likely when declarer is competent.
However, in the vast majority of cases the result will simply be that you killed the defense or made declarer's task much easier.
It is quite similar to psyching without purpose. When it works you call it delicious.
What do you call it when the defense lets an unmake-able contract slip through?

Rainer Herrmann+

looking at 3-2 hearts and any prospective club position being favorable, what do I lose by my play. If I can see at trick two declarer to be 5323 or 4324 and on the verge of ruffing two diamonds high and claiming 12 regardless of the club situation, what do I have to lose. Isn't inducing a line of play that is failing a winning strategy? If I show up 3-1 in the reds, wont declarer botch the club position, or at least doesn't it give me a chance to cause an error on a hand that is no hope anyway?