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Go on or pass 4S

#1 User is offline   TWO4BRIDGE 

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Posted 2012-December-23, 09:30

I've got to get this off my chest... to quit thinking about it :
rightly or wrongly, Responder decides to use a modified Jac2NT:

Responder
Q 9 8 x x
A 10 x x
K Q x
x

1S - 2NT!
3H* - 3S**
3NT*** - 4C ( Ctrl cue )
4S**** - ??

3H* = 4 or 5 cd ♥ suit headed by at least an A or K, AND shortness elsewhere

3S** = next step asks shortness

3NT*** = ♦ shortness

4S**** = no stiff ♦A or void AND no other ♥card: A, K or Q

Responder now knows of an unavoidable ♦-loser AND a possible ♥-loser ( he knows 4-4 or 5-4 w/A and K but no Q ).

Should Responder risk going to the 5-level ( with RKC ) in hopes that partner has the remaining THREE key cards ( ♠A K and ♣ A ??
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Posted 2012-December-23, 09:56

Whether responder moves or not, RKC is clearly wrong. If partner has the remaining 3 key cards slam can still be basically playless even opposite substantial extras (AKJxx Kxxx x AKx )
I would have signed off over 3NT, but having made one slam try with 4C it has to be right to pass 4S now. AJ10xx Kxxx x KQx is a perfectly respectable opening bid, and 4 could be off, never mind five.

We are making slam opposite AKxxx Kxxx J Axx and it is quite playable opposite AKxxx KJxx x Axx but I assume 4S is non-forcing... if partner has really substantial extra values, I assume he woudn't have bid 4S.

On this hand wouldn't it have been better to show a singleton club?
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Posted 2012-December-23, 10:45

As Frances points out, there are many ways to go down vs only one to make slam that you can think of within a minute. That makes it a fast(ish) pass for me.
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Posted 2012-December-23, 10:54

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2012-December-23, 09:56, said:

On this hand wouldn't it have been better to show a singleton club?

See this.
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