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Minimum (?) hand with void LHO has minors

#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2012-December-19, 10:22

MP's
MP's

LHO bids 1NT for the minors. Strength depends on distribution, but minimum is similar to 1-level overcall.
The only agreements with partner are:
- lowest cue: invite+ with 3c♠
- 2NT: invite+ with 4c♠
- 3♠: preemptive
=> 2♠: 3(4)c♠ and 6-9 HCP

How do you evaluate this hand (& would you do more at IMPs)?
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Posted 2012-December-19, 10:26

I pass.

Partner almost certainly has club length (no club raise by East), my diamonds are all under the person showing length in the minors, I have no aces and only 5 spades.

By the way, I don't believe that actual hand was dealt :-p
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Posted 2012-December-19, 10:36

View Postmr1303, on 2012-December-19, 10:26, said:

I pass.

\By the way, I don't believe that actual hand was dealt :-p

We agree with the first sentence, but could have some fun with the second.
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Posted 2012-December-19, 10:38

View Postmr1303, on 2012-December-19, 10:26, said:

By the way, I don't believe that actual hand was dealt :-p
I didn't remember the small cards, so I thought all 6 & 2 was best :rolleyes:
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Posted 2012-December-20, 06:14

It look particularly overvalued with three J which belong to soft power,I bid pass,if rebid any suit,I am afraid of final contract in danger.
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Posted 2012-December-20, 06:55

The only question occurs if you are playing some type of game tries where bidding 3 ♠ by opener now is preemptive. It's then a tactical judgement whether you want to try and shut them out with 3 ♠.

Even so, with the minor suit hand behind you, the hand that was opened has lost value, so I feel pass is right.

It seems with 4 ♠s, responder would be more likely to bid 3 ♠ (preempt) or make an invitation with a good 9+. So, responder is more likely to have 3 ♠ and 6-9.

You've done what you could on this hand. They've got to make a decision whether to compete at the 3 level. If they make the right decision, fine they deserve the result. But sometimes it's right to give the opponents a chance to go wrong.
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Posted 2012-December-21, 11:17

Both hands were:MP's
MP's

LHO did lead ♠ and I made 2♠+3
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Posted 2012-December-21, 11:21

I would pass 2♠. But it seems that, no matter what game try you make, partner is not going to bid game.

Pardon me - there is one game try that you can make that will get you to game. That is 4♠ - bid game and try to make it.
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Posted 2012-December-21, 11:39

I thought that partner was going to bid game after any gametry we would make. Shows what I know.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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