[gnasher]

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Partner's sequence shows a flexible hand. Which way do you flex?

[Trinidad]

So, partner shows something like a 3514, 4513, 4522 or 2524 hand. I would flex to pass, with 5♣ as a close second option.

Rik

[MrAce]

Trinidad, on 2012-November-11, 01:52, said:

So, partner shows something like a 3514, 4513, 4522 or 2524 hand.
Rik

It depends ....To me bidding 4♥ with 3514 or 4513 is not a good idea. He has an easy second DBL with those imo. At these colors 4♦ by opponents makes it harder for pd to hold 2 diamonds but possible of course.(ref to 2425 4522 hands)


I expect pd to have a 6 card ♥ more often... like 3613 4612 2614. We dunno how strong pd could have overcalled, maybe Andy will tell us.


I think i would just pass like you did though.

[JLOGIC]

Yeah def pass partner could have doubled again he s not 45 3613 or so is much more typical

[Trinidad]

I should have written: "At worst something like 3514...". And even then pass is the correct action.

Rik

[Fluffy]

join the chorus, partner could double with 5♥, so I pass now.

[dake50]

DAPO: 2-suiters show which 2-suits by bidding 3H>3D=S+C; 3S>3D=H+C; 4C>3D=S+H
Partner did not 2-suite show, so 1-suiter 6+H.
PASS, Partner's decision this hand. He did 4H.
He didn't repeat Dbl to hear my Clubs.

[phil_20686]

I am sure that a hand like AKx AKxxx xx KQx would bid this way, so 6H is not guaranteed.

Also, even if partner does have 6 hearts, like say AKx AQxxxx x AKx, surely 5C rates to be better quite often. It feels like 5C and pass are pretty close. I could easily see myself bidding 5C at the table. Being able to reach dummy to take finesses might be worth several tricks on its own.

[nigel_k]

4♠

I suspect there is a better spot though, if I bid, I have to guess what it is. If he is 4612 I want to be in spades, e.g. AKxx AKxxxx x Ax. If he is 3613 I want to be in clubs, e.g. AKx AKxxxx x AKx. Spades seems better because he doesn't need such a good hand for it to make and he probably has four spades about as often as he has three clubs. With a better hand I might stick it out in 4♥. But I really don't like our chances when my hand is as bad as this.

[gnasher]

At the table, this hand passed. Partner had AKx AJxxx Ax AKQ, so 4♥ and 4♠ both needed a 3-3 break, whereas 5♣ was almost cold.

[JLOGIC]

Partner did not show any clubs so I would not consider bidding them over a likely 8 card and always at least 7 card major suit fit 1 level lower

[rhm]

gnasher, on 2012-November-13, 02:04, said:

At the table, this hand passed. Partner had AKx AJxxx Ax AKQ, so 4♥ and 4♠ both needed a 3-3 break, whereas 5♣ was almost cold.

4♥ would not be my choice.
I would certainly double again. This hand would not mind defending if partner chooses so, particularly at favorable vulnerability.
(lead trumps)

Rainer Herrmann

[gnasher]

rhm, on 2012-November-13, 06:14, said:

4♥ would not be my choice.
I would certainly double again. This hand would not mind defending if partner chooses so, particularly at favorable vulnerability.
(lead trumps)

The possibility of a second double's being left in almost zero. The opponents have reached 4♦ at adverse, with at most a combined 15-count. They are certain to have a 10- or 11-card fit. So, advancer has a singleton or void diamond and very little in high cards. Why would he leave in a takeout double?

If a second double is going to be taken out, it loses opposite 4315, and probably opposite 4216. Opposite what shapes does it gain?

[rhm]

gnasher, on 2012-November-13, 08:02, said:

The possibility of a second double's being left in almost zero. The opponents have reached 4♦ at adverse, with at most a combined 15-count. They are certain to have a 10- or 11-card fit. So, advancer has a singleton or void diamond and very little in high cards. Why would he leave in a takeout double?

If a second double is going to be taken out, it loses opposite 4315, and probably opposite 4216. Opposite what shapes does it gain?

I disagree.
I think a second DBL at the four-level makes it at least very likely that doubler has 4 tricks on defense.
At this vulnerability and level I want my partner to pass a second DBL if

a) we might go down if we bid.
b) they are likely to go down two when we have game.

In other words a second DBL at the 4 level against red opponents should be left in quite frequently.

Rainer Herrmann

[FrancesHinden]

Why didn't I open the obvious 3C in first seat?

[gnasher]

FrancesHinden, on 2012-November-13, 15:44, said:

Why didn't I open the obvious 3C in first seat?

Good question. From this you can deduce that I held the strong hand.