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I am quite interested in your own personal favorites for defending i.e.
Lavinthal, standard, o/e etc etc
leads
attitudes
count
anything else you like however obscure relating to partnerships defence play (any obscure bits can you provide links or explanations please.
Your favorite may not be what you play with a regular p because that is what they want to play, I am interested in your own preferences and the reasons behind your choice
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What are your favorite defensive systems opinions required please
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Posted 2004-November-26, 14:39
i like udca with o/e first discard... i prefer journalist leads with frequent falsecards...
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Posted 2004-November-26, 15:21
Combine leads (Slawinski).
UDCA
First discard odd encourage, even Lavinthal
UDCA
First discard odd encourage, even Lavinthal
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Posted 2004-November-26, 16:35
Journalist leads
2/4 spot card lead, always
Remaining count signal
lavinthial discards
preference of meaning of siganls, attitude, count, suit preference...bridge logic of the hand helps you choose which signal to use.
Ben
2/4 spot card lead, always
Remaining count signal
lavinthial discards
preference of meaning of siganls, attitude, count, suit preference...bridge logic of the hand helps you choose which signal to use.
Ben
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Posted 2004-November-26, 17:04
Comment the first: The best defense is a good offense...
Comment the second: I'm quite fond of canape leads versus NT
I lead 4th best from a long strong suit that I hope to set up.
If I am lacking a good lead, I'll often lead high in my second best suit hoping to establish it for partner.
Comment the second: I'm quite fond of canape leads versus NT
I lead 4th best from a long strong suit that I hope to set up.
If I am lacking a good lead, I'll often lead high in my second best suit hoping to establish it for partner.
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Posted 2004-November-26, 17:37
Upside down attitude and count, obvious shift in trick 1 and LOTS of suit preference. Basically the Granovetter book but with UDCA.
Only count if partner needs it.
Only count if partner needs it.
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Posted 2004-November-26, 19:16
speaking of that book, i don't have it and haven't been able to locate it anywhere... anybody know of a site selling it, let me know please (i'm speaking of 'a switch in time')
thx
thx
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Posted 2004-November-26, 19:49
UDCA is better when you wanna show the number of cards on opponent´s suit, since you can play low from doubleton honnor.
high/low is better when it is your suit (actually partner´s suit) on wich you are showing the count, there is no problem on droping a doubleton 10 or J normally and low from 3 cards is clearer/safer.
lavinthal discards are good when you wanna mean something, but sometimes you just wanna say nothing and only very good practicied partnerships are able to determine if a card has a menaing, and wich one on each situation, I can remember after playing 2 years with my grand father I became better than him, I could figure wich was the proper meaning of some cards, but I knew something much more important: what was the meaning he was giving to them.
I can remember him dropping a 2 after my A lead when dummy had doubleton, I knew theproper meaning of this was that he has no interest on thesuit, but I also knew he was meaning he had good ♣, saying nothing about the suit led actually.
high/low is better when it is your suit (actually partner´s suit) on wich you are showing the count, there is no problem on droping a doubleton 10 or J normally and low from 3 cards is clearer/safer.
lavinthal discards are good when you wanna mean something, but sometimes you just wanna say nothing and only very good practicied partnerships are able to determine if a card has a menaing, and wich one on each situation, I can remember after playing 2 years with my grand father I became better than him, I could figure wich was the proper meaning of some cards, but I knew something much more important: what was the meaning he was giving to them.
I can remember him dropping a 2 after my A lead when dummy had doubleton, I knew theproper meaning of this was that he has no interest on thesuit, but I also knew he was meaning he had good ♣, saying nothing about the suit led actually.
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Posted 2004-November-26, 21:22
Learn Obvious Shift. Then make you own determination.
No defensive carding scheme is as effective.
No defensive carding scheme is as effective.
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Posted 2004-November-30, 01:15
it really doesnt matter what kind of carding you play in the long run just as long as u both play it. I played in the blue ribbons with hamman and he requested we play 4th best vs everything and K from AK and standard leads and standard carding. He also NEVER gave count except in holdup situations or obscure suit preference signals. Signalling is really not that important, 95 % of hands you can figure out what the best play is. On those that you cant you will almost always be able to read partners signal no matter what your methods are.
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Posted 2004-November-30, 03:21
- 4th against NT, 3rd/5th against suit
- K promisses A or Q, T promisses nothing higher or J and A/K, 9 promisses nothing higher or T and A/K/Q
- odd/even discards (only signal what you want partner to play, not where you have 'something'
- obvious shift or some form of lavinthal in the first trick
- trump echo when necessary
(- smith echo in NT)
- K promisses A or Q, T promisses nothing higher or J and A/K, 9 promisses nothing higher or T and A/K/Q
- odd/even discards (only signal what you want partner to play, not where you have 'something'
- obvious shift or some form of lavinthal in the first trick
- trump echo when necessary
(- smith echo in NT)
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Posted 2004-November-30, 13:07
luke warm, on Nov 26 2004, 08:16 PM, said:
speaking of that book, i don't have it and haven't been able to locate it anywhere... anybody know of a site selling it, let me know please (i'm speaking of 'a switch in time')
thx
thx
Its on the web, atleast in two places, if you cant find it , ill look for you.
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Posted 2004-November-30, 13:53
someone told me if i join bridgetoday.com they send it free in pdf, however it isn't written on their site that i can find... as for other places, it's out of print... even the granovetter's site has a broken link to their order page ... so yes, if you know where it is pls let me know.. thx
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Posted 2004-November-30, 15:36
Jimmy,
Paul Lavings has some copies available secondhand, $20 Aud - about $17US.
Try this link to Postfree bridge Books
http://www.postfree.cc/
Paul Lavings has some copies available secondhand, $20 Aud - about $17US.
Try this link to Postfree bridge Books
http://www.postfree.cc/
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Posted 2004-November-30, 18:29
thx ron, at last!! thx also to everyone who tried to direct me
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Posted 2004-December-06, 23:00
3rd/5th leads, with attitude leads versus NT contracts.
MUD from three small up to J-9-x, hi-lo is doubleton.
Coded 9/10's into the Jack or Queen in the dummy throughout the hand
UDCASP (yes, reverse suit preference)
Obvious Shift at trick one
Reverse S/P Lav at 1st discard (used to use Prism Signals, but we decided to dive head first into suit preference).
From A-K-x(x), A = att, K=count, with K, then A showing doubleton and asking for suit exit out of the other two suits (at NT the two shortest suits are assumed).
From honor sequence leads, the hi-lo of the honor asks for count, the lo-hi asks for suit preference.
Are considering count-coded leads if applicable.
MUD from three small up to J-9-x, hi-lo is doubleton.
Coded 9/10's into the Jack or Queen in the dummy throughout the hand
UDCASP (yes, reverse suit preference)
Obvious Shift at trick one
Reverse S/P Lav at 1st discard (used to use Prism Signals, but we decided to dive head first into suit preference).
From A-K-x(x), A = att, K=count, with K, then A showing doubleton and asking for suit exit out of the other two suits (at NT the two shortest suits are assumed).
From honor sequence leads, the hi-lo of the honor asks for count, the lo-hi asks for suit preference.
Are considering count-coded leads if applicable.
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