[bluecalm]

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1♣ = polish club but it's the same as 2+ in this situation
first dbl = 4 or 5 spades
2nd dbl = extras

Good/star opps, imps.
Your choice ?

[MrAce]

2nd double extras but whats the minimum for it ? I would think it requires at least a decent 11 hcp since we are limited by 1 NT (or did we ? Because i am not familiar with this system)

But i am assuming pd has a hand an invitation vs a weak NT, but i cant see how to refuse the invitation any safer than just bidding 3 NT. 3♥ bid tells us that ducking hearts 1 time will be enough to cut their communication most of the time, otoh he didnt preempt, he bid 1 and then 3 ♥ which means he will have entries, not his pd. So 3 NT is unlikely to make unless we have 9 fast tricks which i doubt because if we had that pd would just bid 3NT himself most of the time. This leaves us to a-pass b-4cl c-4d. Although i am an agressive passer the behaviour of 3♥ bidder is very suspicious, i think he has a very decent hand and i would prefer not to stay in defense at 3 level, that eliminates the pass for me as well.

I would probably bid 4♣, i have 5 of them instead of 2 after all.

[bluecalm]

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But i am assuming pd has a hand an invitation vs a weak NT

This is correct. We showed 12-14balanced. We couldn't rebid 2C though (as it would be 15+)

Thanks for your answers I will post "results" later.

[mike777]

pass

worried pard has:

AKxx...xx....AQxx...Jxx

and 5d or 3nt goes dwn.

give west:

QJx..KQJxxxx...x...Ax

[jeffford76]

bluecalm, on 2012-October-19, 11:55, said:

1♣ = polish club but it's the same as 2+ in this situation

Can't I open this 1♦ instead? Seems like a better description to me to open that planning to rebid 2♣.

[bluecalm]

You can and maybe should but you didn't. You chose to show 1214 bal instead of 12 17 and 9 minor cards. That choice even if not the best seems reasonable. The problem is what to do now.

[lalldonn]

I would bid 3NT. I have only two hearts which makes me wary of passing, a stopper (which for me 1NT didn't at all promise), and a suit that looks like it might run. And I really don't have any assurances of good defense against 3♥X, that is just a crap shoot which could work out great or could make easily.

[Fluffy]

I am with Timo, running 9 tricks requires a perfect hand from partner, most of the time an ace is missing and not enough tricks run.

What is worse: some 4144 or 5431 with short hearts from partner make 6m but not 3NT. I rather bid 4m specially at IMPs, given the system I bid 4♣.

[the hog]

4C, not 3NT. I doubt 3nt will make. I have already misbid this hand in PC and owe partner an apology. It is hard to answer questions based on previous misbids.