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#1 User is offline   kayin801 

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Posted 2012-October-07, 11:54



Matchpoints, you are playing 10-12 NT. 1♦ showed 2 or more ♦s.

Really late edit: in case you didn't pick it up from the 1♦ description, you're limited to 15 HCP.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2012-October-07, 12:33

I REALLY don't want to let them play this contract. I'd double.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2012-October-07, 12:33

What other action are you considering?
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Posted 2012-October-07, 13:55

View PostVampyr, on 2012-October-07, 12:33, said:

What other action are you considering?


X, hoping to catch partner with a penalty pass or a 5 card major they couldn't bid (ideal), or to squeak out +110 or -50 against their +90 in a 4-3 (less ideal)
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2012-October-08, 00:50

I'm passing. The hand looks defensive and it doesn't look like 2♥/♠ would play very well with such a flat hand.
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Posted 2012-October-08, 09:01

Hands like this are why I don't like to play a weak notrump. If I have this shape with 14 or less I'm happy to pass. If I have it with 18-19 I'm happy to bid. If I have it with 15-17 I don't know what to do. Here I would pass (and it seems clear to me with 15 and Kxx of clubs) but on a similar hand with xxx of clubs we could belong in a major suit partscore if partner has a five card or longer suit without much strength, but we would want to pass it out if partner doesn't have a 5+ major or 4+ diamonds.
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Posted 2012-October-08, 16:41

View Postlalldonn, on 2012-October-08, 09:01, said:

Hands like this are why I don't like to play a weak notrump. If I have this shape with 14 or less I'm happy to pass. If I have it with 18-19 I'm happy to bid. If I have it with 15-17 I don't know what to do. Here I would pass (and it seems clear to me with 15 and Kxx of clubs) but on a similar hand with xxx of clubs we could belong in a major suit partscore if partner has a five card or longer suit without much strength, but we would want to pass it out if partner doesn't have a 5+ major or 4+ diamonds.


It's not the weak NT that's a problem here; it's the mini NT.

If you're playing a 12-14 NT, your 1D bid promises either an unbalanced hand or 15+ hcp. This means partner can (and should) make a negative double of 2C (or a non-forcing free bid if that's your agreement) on as little as Axxxx Qxxx xxx x, and hence you should pass. The situation here is different because, with the 10-12 NT, you are now maximum for your bidding rather than minimum.
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