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another help for me 5°Major diamond 4°

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Posted 2012-September-29, 09:11

5°Major diamond 4°in tournament duplicate not at couples



What better bid south now? Ty at all for help me :)
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Posted 2012-September-29, 10:40

If partner has shown 5 cards initially, I'm wondering why you didn't support initially with a 2S bid.

Now, I believe partner is showing at least a 5-5 in the majors with the 3H-jump ( forcing ) ; and since I don't want to ruff with -honors, I'll bid 4S.
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Posted 2012-September-29, 10:58

I'd have bid 3 over 1 with 7 playing tricks but I recognise I'm probably in a minority here.

3 F1 or GF ? and 5-5 or heart splinter in support of clubs ? I'd bid 3 rather than 4 if it's FG, a slam is very possible here.
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Posted 2012-September-29, 12:18

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-September-29, 10:40, said:

If partner has shown 5 cards initially, I'm wondering why you didn't support initially with a 2S bid.

Now, I believe partner is showing at least a 5-5 in the majors with the 3H-jump ( forcing ) ; and since I don't want to ruff with -honors, I'll bid 4S.



What you think if bid 4 for tell to my partner that I have both majors, choose you and i have cuebid at ?
Sorry for my bad english
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Posted 2012-September-29, 14:51

my hand has vastly improved after the 3h bid and my *underbid of 2c with
my 2 3/4 club hand (courtesy of cyberyeti) and I am now interested in slam.
IMO we should now bid

4d

dia splinter and at the very worst 3 card spade support (could also have 3/4
card heart support) the important part of the message is we have a fit and
my hand has improved dramatically since my simple 2c bid. If p does not
have slam aspirations they can sign off in 4h and we will correct to 4s if we
are say 3217. We can also use the same logic to correct any 6 level heart
contract to spades.

There is a down side to this--if p now wanted to use rkc there is no simple
method of differentiating hearts from spades. How does p go about asking
for heart honors when there has been no agreed trump suit. We are prepared
to question p 3h bid vs a much less space consuming 2d bid earlier :))))))))))
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Posted 2012-September-29, 18:12

I like the 2 bid, but please be aware this is a massive underbid. It's a tactical underbid, since the bidding will never stop in 2 and by raising spades later we show good clubs.

3 is a splinter, surely. But whatever it means, we have a 4 bid, even with wasted heart values. Opposite a splinter my spade holding is terrible as well, but 4 is still indicated since partner has a minimum of Akxx x qxxx kxxx. And if partner has hearts (which I doubt), 4 is still best, even though it agrees hearts.

Over 4 I bid 6 and over 4 I will scratch my head, probably concluding a wheel has fallen off since we are a scratch partnership.
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Posted 2012-September-29, 22:00

2C is certainly not an underbid. I assume 3H is a gf, so i see no reason not to bid 3S now. 4D would be a cue bid agreeing hearts, not a bid promising both majors.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2012-September-30, 15:16

View PostPhilKing, on 2012-September-29, 18:12, said:

3 is a splinter, surely.


Why would this be?
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Posted 2012-September-30, 15:55

View Postdboxley, on 2012-September-30, 15:16, said:

Why would this be?


Standard splinter where I come from with 2 forcing or 2 to set up a force if you prefer. But even if partner has the majors, I prefer to bid 4.

Anyway, once partner bids 3 I am playing slam. Maybe I should bid Five Diamonds.
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Posted 2012-October-02, 03:42

I simply bid 3, because 4 or 5 had agreed hearts. I had believed that this is common practice, but obviously it is not.
This is surely forcing, because with invitational hands, partner had tried 2 .
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