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Cellulose plastic cards with duplicate boards Kem, Copag, Modiano

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Posted 2012-August-22, 12:54

Im wondering if these cards (in the bridge size) would go well with duplicate boards ? Did anyone bought some online in Canada ?
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Posted 2012-August-22, 13:24

Plastic cards generally last longer. We have a few decks at club; I am not fond of them for bridge though, they tend be slick and stay that way. Fine for poker where you hold far fewer cards.

I don't see that duplicate boards make any difference one way or the other.
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Posted 2012-August-22, 13:45

I'm not positive but believe those were in play at the recent Montreal Regional and I didn't like them at all.

Just the friction/feel between them caused me to take a lot longer to sort my hands.
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Posted 2012-August-22, 16:36

View Postbillw55, on 2012-August-22, 13:24, said:

I don't see that duplicate boards make any difference one way or the other.


I would be more concerned with how the dealing machine would handle them. It might be sensible to get a couple of packs and try them out.
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Posted 2012-August-22, 17:34

The boards for the auto duplicate machine have slack pockets, even the standard cards wiggle in them, I think some of the plastic cards are thinner than coated cards so it might be a problems.

I have metals boards and old and thick cards almost get stuck into them so very thin plastic cards are possibly a nice fit for those boards.

You get some nice plastics cards for 6$ per deck and in canada regular cards are 2.5 $ per deck so that why im wondering if plastic cards are worthwhile.
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Posted 2012-August-22, 19:00

View Postbenlessard, on 2012-August-22, 17:34, said:

The boards for the auto duplicate machine have slack pockets, even the standard cards wiggle in them, I think some of the plastic cards are thinner than coated cards so it might be a problems.

I don't think the issue is with the boards (many duplication machines don't require that you use special boards), but with the mechanism that slides the cards from the hopper into the slots. If the cards are the wrong texture or thickness, maybe it could grab more or less than one card at a time.

But since there are so many kinds of cards, I hope that the designers of these machines have made them reliable for most designs.

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Posted 2012-August-22, 23:07

I'm not sure about cellulose plastic per se, but when I was playing a lot of bridge in the US in the 90's plastic cards were de rigeur at the bigger clubs and I liked the feel of them a lot. I don't remember them being particularly slippery, and they fit in the standard aluminum boards no problem.

I gather they were more expensive but longer-lasting, though the failure mode was sudden cracking (sometimes in half) rather than just getting tatty. Still, until they blew to pieces they were really nice.

I'm surprised to see this thread as I'd previously just assumed that major events (NABC etc.) would still use them, but a brief look around the web shows just the one kind of ACBL cards. What happened?
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Posted 2012-August-23, 08:09

I remember those cards, I think Kem was the maker of them as well.

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