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1S - ( p ) - 2D! - ( p )
3D - ( 4C ) - 4H = ??
2D! was 2/1 GF
Is 4H a cue-bid or another place to play ?
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Posted 2012-August-06, 07:42
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Posted 2012-August-06, 08:29
Q-bid.
Opener did not bid 2♥, instead opting to support ♦.
So, opener does not have 4♥'s.
Opener did not bid 2♥, instead opting to support ♦.
So, opener does not have 4♥'s.
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Posted 2012-August-06, 08:58
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-August-06, 07:42, said:
1S - ( p ) - 2D! - ( p )
3D - ( 4C ) - 4H = ??
2D! was 2/1 GF
Is 4H a cue-bid or another place to play ?
3D - ( 4C ) - 4H = ??
2D! was 2/1 GF
Is 4H a cue-bid or another place to play ?
Cue or kickback if you play it
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Posted 2012-August-06, 09:32
masse24, on 2012-August-06, 08:29, said:
Opener did not bid 2♥, instead opting to support ♦.
So, opener does not have 4♥'s.
So, opener does not have 4♥'s.
I assume you meant to say YOU would not have 4 hearts in your 2/1 style. Certainly you weren't imposing that on everyone else.
However, I doubt this will come up very much unless RHO was busy eating refreshments on the previous round.
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Posted 2012-August-06, 09:32
2nd suit - ostensibly a 5-6.
We are in a forcing pass. If we want to cue we can either bid 4♦ to initiate cues or pass and bid 4!h over partner's 4!d or x.
We are in a forcing pass. If we want to cue we can either bid 4♦ to initiate cues or pass and bid 4!h over partner's 4!d or x.
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Posted 2012-August-06, 19:07
aguahombre, on 2012-August-06, 09:32, said:
I assume you meant to say YOU would not have 4 hearts in your 2/1 style. Certainly you weren't imposing that on everyone else.
However, I doubt this will come up very much unless RHO was busy eating refreshments on the previous round.
However, I doubt this will come up very much unless RHO was busy eating refreshments on the previous round.
That 4C interference bid certainly was annoying.
The bidding/deal was shown to an expert who said a Steve Robinson panel of experts had a concensus that it was a SUIT :
" A similar hand ( was ) in the distrct 6 or mid-atlantic conference magazine (can't remember which). The question was: ' what was the meaning of the first non-jump bid after a gf suit agreement' , and the consensus was it is a slam try with length rather than a cue bid . "
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"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
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Posted 2012-August-06, 20:46
In the current case, it shows a suit. Any hand which would have bid 3H without the silliness of the 4C bid by a player who couldn't act over the opening bid. It is not forcing, IMO.
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Posted 2012-August-06, 22:55
Without the interference, 3H could have been semi-natural fishing for 3NT (or it could have been a cuebid, its meaning made clear by responder taking a third call over opener's 3NT.)
Now that we are past 3NT anyway, I think cuebid is clear.
I am always amazed how many bids are called choice-of-games on the forum.
Now that we are past 3NT anyway, I think cuebid is clear.
I am always amazed how many bids are called choice-of-games on the forum.
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