[JLOGIC]

So you would bid with x Ax Axxxxx Axxx? Ok, fair enough I think that would be wrong but I would also bid with the actual hand given, I am just defending west because I don't think it was the worst thing ever and he got kind of burned that it was a double game swing opposite partners actual hand lol.

[mfa1010]

Not really an ATB problem, since east has an automatic double and west is left alone with the full high level decision to make.

I think pass was fine and likely the percentage bid. Say we take out to 4NT, then we will be praying that partner chooses clubs because 5D will not be right very often with that empty suit. And even 5C might not be so hot if it is just a 4-4.
Close decision for west.

[rhm]

mfa1010, on 2012-August-04, 08:54, said:

Not really an ATB problem, since east has an automatic double and west is left alone with the full high level decision to make.

I think pass was fine and likely the percentage bid. Say we take out to 4NT, then we will be praying that partner chooses clubs because 5D will not be right very often with that empty suit. And even 5C might not be so hot if it is just a 4-4.
Close decision for west.

High percentage is that either 5♣ or 4♠ will make.
Low percentage is that neither game will make or that both games will make.

Passing is asking for trouble, which West got.

Rainer Herrmann