The New(?) "Human Declares" Robot Games ...threat or menace?
#41
Posted 2012-August-05, 19:08
#42
Posted 2012-August-05, 19:44
The results of the survey will probably be the biggest determinant in how we expand this. My guess is that race/rewards will probably be unchanged.
#43
Posted 2012-August-13, 12:57
Bbradley62, on 2012-August-03, 12:07, said:
This turns out to be my biggest complaint. With the new "human declares" format combined with "best hand south", I'm doing declarer play for just about every hand, and if more than a couple require serious thought and I'm actually paying attention and want to give it that thought, I'll get timed out instead of finishing. (I just played one, for example, in which I passed out a rather unspired flat 14-count. In other circumstances I absolutely would have opened it and gone down 1-2 along with everyone else. Kind of annoying way to get a top!)
One might argue that my declarer play should be faster, but it's also certainly the cast that BBO has decreased the average amount of time available per hand-played-as-declarer in these. I don't think I'd want to pay money for that format without having correspondingly more time available.
#44
Posted 2012-August-13, 13:33
Heron, on 2012-August-13, 12:57, said:
So the new format requires that the human put more effort into it, and is thus a better measurement of skill.
Gotcha.
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#45
Posted 2012-August-13, 13:35
barmar, on 2012-August-05, 19:44, said:
The results of the survey will probably be the biggest determinant in how we expand this. My guess is that race/rewards will probably be unchanged.
The ACBL's biggest beef is that robots are playing in place of players. If BBO can reduce the robot element by the greatest extent possible, shouldn't that be an objective of setting the format?
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#46
Posted 2012-August-13, 13:54
Heron, on 2012-August-13, 12:57, said:
Phil, on 2012-August-13, 13:33, said:
Gotcha.
Seems like Heron's just pointing out that a slightly longer time limit may be good for the human declares games. It will still be more skill based with another 5 minutes on the clock.
A 10 minute time limit would require a lot of skill, but it wouldn't exactly be pleasant.
#47
Posted 2012-August-13, 14:33
semeai, on 2012-August-13, 13:54, said:
That seems reasonable.
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#48
Posted 2012-August-13, 14:49
#50
Posted 2012-September-13, 13:06
I have given up on the Robot Races, but it does seem to me that it might be nice to have GIB declare its share of hands in that format. It's a well known RR gambit to steer GIB to declare, when you absolutely need the points, and time is running out. I would suggest that you poll more RR players for their opinions.
Other than this minor reservation: Thumbs up!