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Posted 2012-June-26, 14:26



LHO leads the ♣10 - plan the play.
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Posted 2012-June-26, 14:26

Nice hand.
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Posted 2012-June-26, 14:28

Yep - probably wrong forum though.
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Posted 2012-June-26, 14:30

View PostPhil, on 2012-June-26, 14:28, said:

Yep - probably wrong forum though.

Too tough for Advanced? This is a problem my partner sent to me this morning, I don't know if I have the right answer yet.
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Posted 2012-June-26, 15:08

I'd win in hand, heart to the 9, ruff a diamond high, heart to the 8, ruff a diamond, K of clubs-club ruff, K of diamonds pitching a spade. If righty wins, I'll fall back on the spade finesse, if lefty wins I'm 100% lock.

And this appears to be an intermediate-advanced level problem to me, Phil, though I'd expect that high advanced players wouldn't have to think too long. The elimination/endplay would come very easily to an expert.
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Posted 2012-June-26, 15:12

View Postjillybean, on 2012-June-26, 14:26, said:



LHO leads the ♣10 - plan the play.


Here'e what I'd do

Win the Ace of Clubs
Draw trump

Win the King of Clubs
Ruff a club to the board

Ruff a Diamond
trump to the board
ruff a diamond
trump to the board

Lead the King of Diamonds
Regardless of who wins this, throw a spade

If LHO has the King of Diamonds, he's endplayed
If RHO has the King of Diamonds, you're back to a Spade hook
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Posted 2012-June-26, 15:15

I think I have the best line, it's at least a pretty good one:

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Wow, two people posted the same line while I was typing this.

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Posted 2012-June-26, 15:16

View Posthrothgar, on 2012-June-26, 15:12, said:


If LHO has the Ace of Diamonds, he's endplayed
If RHO has the Ace of Diamonds, you're back to a Spade hook

Hey Richard, FYP
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Posted 2012-June-26, 15:29

View Postjillybean, on 2012-June-26, 14:30, said:

Too tough for Advanced? This is a problem my partner sent to me this morning, I don't know if I have the right answer yet.


You have the right answer if you did the following

win club, play heart ace, cash club king, ruff club
ruff diamond,
heart six to dummy
ruff a diamond...
heart 2 to dummy
diamond king, and if east plays low, pitch a spade if WEST wins diamond ace, he is endplayed.

IF east covers the diamond ace, ruff, and exit a small spade. If east can not overtake whatever spade west plays without using the king, he is endplayed, if east wins the spade you will get the chance for the spade finesse when he leads a spade.

The ruff and exit a small spade wins if west has something like SKJT tripleton or sKJ doubleton or if east is asleep and doesn't realize the need to overtake when he lacks the spade king, and of course, anytime east has the spade king.
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Posted 2012-June-26, 16:02

Nice extra detail by Inquiry. I think nothing can make it better now.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2012-June-26, 20:11

View Postinquiry, on 2012-June-26, 15:29, said:



The ruff and exit a small spade wins if west has something like SKJT tripleton or sKJ doubleton or if east is asleep and doesn't realize the need to overtake when he lacks the spade king, and of course, anytime east has the spade king.


Wd Ben.

In addition to the reaosons you mentioned, west may as well have stiff K.
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Posted 2012-June-26, 20:20

My plan was the same as the one Richard posted.
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