Chamaco, on Nov 22 2004, 01:21 AM, said:
keylime, on Nov 22 2004, 04:53 AM, said:
4♦, clearcut. Tell pard where you live. His intermediate honors in the other two suits will shrink up, his big honors increase.
That, and I don't like 4NT RKC for hearts, I use Kickback (4♠ is RKC for hearts).
Who cares about his intermediate honors ? :-)
Let's not talk in abstract but be specific and look at the specific posted hand:
♠ 9 ♥ Q97542 ♦ AKT42 ♣ 4
What do I need for slam ?
I am not interested in pard's intermediates or potential misfit/double fit in side suits.
I only need Keycards.
Even if he has wasted QJs in the black suits, slam is still on based purely on the 3 missing aces and trump K.
Anyways when I have time (probably in the weekend), I'll run some simulations cmparing bidding and results assuming that :
1) we bid 4D and if pard signs off because of side suit misfit we respect his choice and pass out (if we do not accept signoff, then it's much better to bid 4NT right away = unrevealing auction often avoid a killing lead)
2) we bid 4NT right away and proceed using RKCB.
I will post the results.
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BTW, I also prefer Kickback 4S but this was for beginners-intermediate.
Mauro: Pard is a good player (well he decided to play with US
) and will know the importance of his black suit aces and the Q or J
♦ as well as the negatives of black kings and queens and xxx in
♦'s, but only after we bid 4
♦.
Who is in a better position to judge the final contract here, him or us? We know partner has:
1. At least 5 (potential) cover cards (the way I play)
2. 12+ HCP
3. At least four trump.
Pretty vague if you ask me.
OTOH, when we bid 4
♦ we transmit:
1. At least an opening hand (OK, he knew that)
2. At least ten cards in the red suits
3. (Subtly, and perhaps, more importantly) A hand that has some flaw that doesn't allow us to take direct control over 2N. If I held: x, KQxxxx, AKQxx, x then 4N is easy.