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#3
Posted 2012-May-23, 00:56
We have a combined semi-balanced 30, and are missing two Key cards if clubs are trump.
#4
Posted 2012-May-23, 02:35
#5
Posted 2012-May-23, 03:37
South replies 5♣ - 1/4 keycards, must be 1 so North passes and plays 5♣
South replies 5♦ - 0/3 keycards, must be 3 keycards for South's bidding so far (he's shown ace of hearts already), so North bids 6♣
South replies 5♥ - 2 keycards no queen, North bids 6♣
#6
Posted 2012-May-23, 03:48
If 2NT was forcing then 3S is again not very good. We have a lot of cards in diamonds and hearts and our hand is NT'ish. I would bid 4NT and play there. Havaing bid 3S we overbid again by bidding 6C. We have minimum hand with bad localization, we should just bid 4S cuebid and wait for partner to decide. He still have a chance to bid 5C with minimum.
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Before you play any ace asking bid, including RKCB it's good idea to learn about hand valuation. You ask for aces to see if there are any aces missing if slam values are there, it won't solve your problems if you are unable to establish those in the first place.
#7
Posted 2012-May-23, 07:20
Also: this is boring.
How can anyone think South was to blame for this?
Damn I wish this was usenet and I could create a kill file.
#8
Posted 2012-May-23, 07:24
EDIT: Oh lol, I forgot to mention we miss ♣J as well!.
#9
Posted 2012-May-23, 08:06
North's three spade bid is basically hopeless. South denied 4S so the on reason to bid 3S is to get partner focused on holding black suit cards for slam. Slam just looks hoplessly far away with the north hand, he has an auto 3N bid over an invitational 2N.
If 2N was some kind of forcing with a balanced hand, then south should bid 3N over 3S anyway, as north could just have some 15 count looking for extras.
#10
Posted 2012-May-23, 08:08
North has a 3NT bid. Anything else is very wishful thinking.
#11
Posted 2012-May-23, 09:22
Fluffy, on 2012-May-23, 07:24, said:
EDIT: Oh lol, I forgot to mention we miss ♣J as well!.
Don't understand your counting, Kxx, Axx, xxx, KJxx is an excellent slam, but there aren't many hands that are, and a lot more that aren't.
#12
Posted 2012-May-23, 11:55
Cyberyeti, on 2012-May-23, 09:22, said:
2nt doesn't look right with Kxx Axx xxx KJxx. You could miss a slam, but more importantly could be wrong-siding 3nt. I'd try an inverted 2♣.
#15
Posted 2012-May-23, 16:51
jogs, on 2012-May-23, 14:49, said:
In what partnership? If you had read any of the responses, above, you might notice there is a difference of opinion about the nature of 1C-2N. Some are o.k. with it being an invite, and others believe it is a g.f. I don't think anyone knows how South intended it.
Then there is a slight disagreement about whether the given hand is an invite or a game force. If you believe 2NT should be game force, AND this hand is not one, then your 1D response is appropriate; we happen to be in that camp and would bid 1D. That doesn't make 1D correct for other pairs, and certainly doesn't make anyone a handhog.
#16
Posted 2012-May-23, 19:46
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#17
Posted 2012-May-24, 07:14
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
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#18
Posted 2012-May-25, 02:43
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#20
Posted 2012-May-25, 06:58
lowerline, on 2012-May-25, 04:08, said:
The bidding only makes sense if 2nt is game-forcing. If you play 1430 RKB , North could have checked keycards.
South is blameless.
Steven
This hand could be the "poster child" for 1430 .
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .