[Stephen Tu]

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Why is GIB bidding 3s here instead of the normal pass?
- why does 2s say 8-10 HCP? Shouldn't it simply be 10- HCP? (I wonder if it's possible in GIB language to specify (2 sp, 10- HCP) || (3sp, 6- HCP))

- I think 3sp should be stronger, at least like 17-18 total points, and surely 6+ suit, something better than this. With more HCP, off shape (say like add K of clubs), it can bid 2nt without a d stop, IMO.

[pigpenz]

ditto

[aguahombre]

I believe I have met GIB at the club. Or was it at a tournement sometime in the past 50 years? Or was it many times?

2S ends the auction. ALWAYS.

[Stephen Tu]

aguahombre, on 2012-April-19, 20:45, said:

2S ends the auction. ALWAYS.

This is an overstatement. Maybe it should end the auction if playing Precision. But in std methods, responder can easily have 8-bad 10 points. Opener can have up to 18 semi-bal. Missing 28 HCP games isn't my idea of good bidding. Opener should be able to go on with a strong roughly 17+ 54xx, 64xx, 55xx.

2s should end the auction opposite the original hand, and more often than not, but not ALWAYS.

[cloa513]

Stephen Tu, on 2012-April-20, 01:51, said:

This is an overstatement. Maybe it should end the auction if playing Precision. But in std methods, responder can easily have 8-bad 10 points. Opener can have up to 18 semi-bal. Missing 28 HCP games isn't my idea of good bidding. Opener should be able to go on with a strong roughly 17+ 54xx, 64xx, 55xx.

2s should end the auction opposite the original hand, and more often than not, but not ALWAYS.

Even a precision hand might raise at that point with 6 good spades and at least 4 hearts- a double fit doesn't need 25+ HCP+.