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anorther 4sf auction; raising partner's 2nd suit

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Posted 2012-April-15, 16:32



I think 2d and 3nt should deny 5 spades; will this keep GIB from pulling 3nt to 4s?

In general I think GIB supports 2nd suits on 3 too often, like on auctions 1c-1s-2c-2h-3h; this shows only 3 hearts but I think it should have 4 normally. Supporting later can be on 3. It can bid Moysians based on sim, but it better be giving partner 4 cds in the suit not 5 when it sims.
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Posted 2012-April-16, 18:26

View PostStephen Tu, on 2012-April-15, 16:32, said:



I think 2d and 3nt should deny 5 spades; will this keep GIB from pulling 3nt to 4s?

In general I think GIB supports 2nd suits on 3 too often, like on auctions 1c-1s-2c-2h-3h; this shows only 3 hearts but I think it should have 4 normally. Supporting later can be on 3. It can bid Moysians based on sim, but it better be giving partner 4 cds in the suit not 5 when it sims.

It should have been book bids right through- simple slack bidding programming.
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Posted 2012-April-19, 03:26

View PostStephen Tu, on 2012-April-15, 16:32, said:

I think 2d and 3nt should deny 5 spades; will this keep GIB from pulling 3nt to 4s?

In general I think GIB supports 2nd suits on 3 too often, like on auctions 1c-1s-2c-2h-3h; this shows only 3 hearts but I think it should have 4 normally. Supporting later can be on 3. It can bid Moysians based on sim, but it better be giving partner 4 cds in the suit not 5 when it sims.


There is some crossing of rules between NMF and 4SF, which causes that inappropriate explanation.

Will be set for fix.

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Posted 2012-April-19, 03:32

View Postcloa513, on 2012-April-16, 18:26, said:

It should have been book bids right through- simple slack bidding programming.


Everything is simple, is it not?

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Posted 2012-April-19, 05:08

Its not simple- its hard work- something that was an anethma to Ginsberg and every other bridge computer programmer- They should have been using heuristics (metarules) as other expert systems not ludicrous long chained simulations.
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