A Stranger in a Strange Land
#1
Posted 2012-March-08, 09:55
w/r, IMPs, short matches. Partner opens 1♠. As you think about some of the continuations if you start with a semi-forcing NT, Mr. Random on your right flies in with 5♣. That's right, red on white.
What now? Continuations to follow.
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#2
Posted 2012-March-08, 09:59
So far, so good.
#3
Posted 2012-March-08, 10:08
I don't often play hunches in real life, so it would be weird to play a hunch in a forum.
#4
Posted 2012-March-08, 10:24
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#5
Posted 2012-March-08, 10:35
Either rho is gambling and about to lose or the auction is the same at the other table to this point. -750 for a push?
My hunch is that the real problem is coming back to me after pard bids at the 5 level or 6♣.
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#8
Posted 2012-March-08, 11:45
i'd rather keep my X upto strength and leave p able to bid more confidently, including to slam, next time.
#9
Posted 2012-March-08, 11:57
If South's hand is treated as the default expectation over a preempt, then pass looks reasonable. It is similar, but not the same as, what direct seat assumes over an opening 3m preempt ---that his CHO will have at least some nondescript 6-9.
#10
Posted 2012-March-08, 12:18
kfay, on 2012-March-08, 11:15, said:
A scattered 9 count with no great shape doesnt seem like a hand that should be venturing out to this strange land - the five level.
My view matched this:
wank said:
i'd rather keep my X upto strength and leave p able to bid more confidently, including to slam, next time.
So I passed. Your partner Mark was right back in there with 5♥.
Had enough?
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#11
Posted 2012-March-08, 12:38
hopefully partner can infer i have the heart suit sewn up and eventually add a 7th heart with the right hand - it's not difficult to imagine partner with AKs Kh Ad and a club void.
if i'm lucky p will cue 6c and i can cue 6d which should be 2nd round now.
#12
Posted 2012-March-08, 12:47
#13
Posted 2012-March-08, 12:55
If I had passed originally, and saw partner bid 5♥.....heck.....everything I have is working.....I'm willing to bet that this isn't a hand on which we make precisely 11 tricks, nor is LHO likely to be able to double with zero trump tricks and an auction that screams no club tricks so we aren't getting hurt much no matter what (well, that's what I tell myself).
5N has attractions, but I don't see it as likely to help us find grand even if it exists...at least, not any more than 6♥, which isn't exactly a confession of weakness
#14
Posted 2012-March-08, 14:08
And, if I had not doubled 5♣, if partner volunteered 5♥ I would have to raise to 6.
#15
Posted 2012-March-08, 14:15
If it was Itibashi, it would be a close choice (4 was too high?); if Ralph, an easy 6H.
#16
Posted 2012-March-08, 14:32
I bid 6. Turns out he was jokering a bit with AJTxxx KJxxx Q K.
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#17
Posted 2012-March-08, 14:35
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#18
Posted 2012-March-08, 14:35
I don't get this being a minimum double when you have 1 plus 2 1/2 defensive cards opposite an opening bid. It's not a minimum hand for offence with this heart suit either. I'm raising but would try for the grand before passing.
I'm sorely tempted to bid 6♣, hopefully hear 6♦ and then bid 6♥ to give pard a shot at it.
Just saw the end result and have my ATB vote ready.
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#19
Posted 2012-March-08, 14:52
Phil, on 2012-March-08, 14:32, said:
I bid 6. Turns out he was jokering a bit with AJTxxx KJxxx Q K.
Those were the two Mark types, I was referring to. So, you could have just said itibashi
#20
Posted 2012-March-09, 12:55
I agree with your pass. I don't think that this is enough to double, although I think that it is very close. On the 95% of the hands with which partner passes I am not sure that I would like to defend 5CX instead of 5C. If partner pulls to 5H I am very happy (and I would pass), but if partner bids 5D or 5S I am probably better off defending 5C.
I would like to bid 6D after partner's unexpected 5H call. Can this really suggest playing in diamonds? If not, I think it shows very well what we have: a great hand for hearts in context, a diamond control, no first round club control. I guess 5NT would accomplish the same thing: if partner bids 6C (first round club control) we could bid 6D. That would be more a last-train type of bid.
Actually, I think that a direct 6D should really show a diamond suit. Perhaps x Axxx KQxxxx xx would be a direct 6D bid. So I change my call to 5NT followed by the more ambiguous 6D if partner bids 6C.
- hrothgar