[wyman]

Opps playing capp (so 2C=single suiter, 2D P/C)

What's the difference between these sequences? And do you play Lebensohl on in the latter situation (my inclination is yes, but...)?

1N (2C) dbl [Stayman, presumably]

1N (2C) P (2D)
P (2M or P) Y
where Y is either a cuebid or Leb-cuebid



edit: I guess this is a more general question; since systems are on over 2C, we'll have a variety of immediate vs delayed actions to distinguish between.

[Zelandakh]

1NT - (2♣) - X as Stayman is a decent agreement.
1NT - (2♣) - P - (2♦)
P - (P) - 3♦
and
1NT - (2♣) - P - (2♦)
P - 2M - 3M

are simplest to define as stopper-asks with a hand that wanted to bid 3NT but first wanted to see which suit Overcaller had. I do not think that you need Lebensohl here.

[jillybean]

I dont agree with your second answer. You could be left sitting there with your 3N card when the auction goes 1N (2♣) P (2♦) swish.

[ArtK78]

jillybean, on 2012-February-13, 10:10, said:

I dont agree with your second answer. You could be left sitting there with your 3N card when the auction goes 1N (2♣) P (2♦) swish.

Responder will always get another chance to bid, unless fourth hand passes 2♣.

In the auction - 1NT - (2♣)* - P - (2♦) - P - (P) - ? responder is in passout seat.

[gszes]

wyman, on 2012-February-13, 09:18, said:

Opps playing capp (so 2C=single suiter, 2D P/C)

What's the difference between these sequences? And do you play Lebensohl on in the latter situation (my inclination is yes, but...)?

1N (2C) dbl [Stayman, presumably]

1N (2C) P (2D)
P (2M or P) Y
where Y is either a cuebid or Leb-cuebid



edit: I guess this is a more general question; since systems are on over 2C, we'll have a variety of immediate vs delayed actions to distinguish between.

2c x = stayman
2d transfer to hearts
2h transfer to spades
2s and or 2n depending on agreement relay to minor

if you stick with your basic system you have solved a ton of bidding problems
right from the get go--your 2d 2h (2s/2n) bids should be at least competitive.

with hands that dont fit into the above you can wait to hear rho suit
then use

2n nat invite (1 stopper)
x for penalty
cue bid rho suit to show game forcing no stop
3n nat at least 1 stop (depending on vulnerability sometimes you will x for penalty instead).

dont let the 2c bid disrupt your natural bidding mechanisms in the hope of scoring up a cheap
penalty x at the 2 level. If you do so the opps may have won the battle already.

this is not a classic leb circumstance you do not need to bid weak hands here which you
are forced to a lot when using leb ie you hold

xx xxxxx xxx xxx bidding goes 2s x p ? leb here helps differentiate btn this garbage and
xx AQxxx Kxx xxx where you would bid 3h immediatley