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Rebid Problem

Poll: On which hand(s) do you rebid 3C (24 member(s) have cast votes)

On which of these hands do you rebid a natural 3C after 1S - (Dble) - 1NT - (Pass)?

  1. AK986 102 4 AK1083 (1 votes [1.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.67%

  2. AK986 Q2 4 AK1083 (9 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  3. AK986 86 4 AKQ83 (17 votes [28.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.33%

  4. AK986 Q2 4 AKQ83 (19 votes [31.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.67%

  5. AK986 Q2 43 AKQ8 (14 votes [23.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.33%

  6. None of the above (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   lamford 

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Posted 2012-January-27, 11:32

1NT is natural, 8-10, and you are playing 5cM. On which hands would you bid 3C? It is IMPs, vul against not. I have put in full pips, in case that is of significance.
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Posted 2012-January-27, 13:48

I'll bid 3 on any of the hands I consider to be worth a game force opposite what partner has shown. Quite a few of these look like game forces opposite 8-10 but the quality of the pips could make a difference in some of these cases.

As explained on one of your other recent threads, if I have anything less than a game force, I'll start with 2; I shan't miss game very often as partner has an easy false preference available if he is non-minimum with a doubleton spade (partner can't be non-minimum with 1-3 in the blacks as that hand would start with redouble).
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Posted 2012-January-27, 16:33

I totted up my points, added one point for each of my 5-card suits, added partner's 8, and then game-forced if the total was 25 or more. Is that the sort of answer you were looking for?
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Posted 2012-January-27, 16:56

View Postgnasher, on 2012-January-27, 16:33, said:

I totted up my points, added one point for each of my 5-card suits, added partner's 8, and then game-forced if the total was 25 or more. Is that the sort of answer you were looking for?

So you would bid 3C with AKxxx xx x AKJxx? I would as well. Yes, your answer was very helpful.
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Posted 2012-January-27, 17:31

View Postlamford, on 2012-January-27, 16:56, said:

So you would bid 3C with AKxxx xx x AKJxx?

Only in an imaginary world where I had agreed to play 1NT as 8-10.
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Posted 2012-January-27, 17:34

View Postgnasher, on 2012-January-27, 17:31, said:

Only in an imaginary world where I had agreed to play 1NT as 8-10.

Indeed. Looking at the other poll I suspect some tactical voting as well. There were 36 votes, and some of those left out hands of 8-9, presumably just voting for 6, 7 or 10!
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Posted 2012-January-27, 20:54

Is it playable to have 2C forcing here? Because that's what I have in agreement with one of my partners. That way I can save 3C for pure 5-5 hands.
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Posted 2012-January-28, 04:04

View Postlamford, on 2012-January-27, 17:34, said:

Indeed. Looking at the other poll I suspect some tactical voting as well. There were 36 votes, and some of those left out hands of 8-9, presumably just voting for 6, 7 or 10!

It's easy to discourage such sabotage - make it a public poll.
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Posted 2012-January-28, 12:27

I think all except the first one are ok. Jumping now is a little bit more flexible since its a competitive auction and partner had shown a bit more. Also, Its not impossible LHO still has a strong hand in a red suit, so ther eis a little bit of preemption going on too.
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Posted 2012-January-30, 14:29

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Only in an imaginary world where I had agreed to play 1NT as 8-10.


I dont see why you would like to play any other range here. I just played 2 doubled hands recently.

(1H)-X-(1S)-P
(1Nt)-X all pass

(1S)-X-(1Nt)-X (not resp)

in both case opener had a real opening + responder had 6/7 pts = -300/-500. On both of them I tought it was poor to respond with 6-7 pts.

IMO responding light over a takeout X only work when you are white at MP or you have a good or long suit.
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