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Maybe more like I/A, but:
QJ1087 / KJ3 / 1063 / K9
(1D) 1S (P) 2D
(X) ?
Opener's X shows a sound 2D rebid. How many spades now? Is it close?
Asides:
1) A new suit is clearly forcing here. On what hand types would bidding a new suit be appropriate? Do you play this is a game try just as though the auction had gone 1S - 2S; ?
2) Do you play 3D here as mixed? Western?
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Posted 2012-January-31, 08:47
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Posted 2012-January-31, 09:05
Hi,
In this situations it is good to have an agreement what is pass and what is 2♠. One of them should be a really minimum overcall and the other should be a non-minimum hand still not good enough to accept the invitation. I feel your hand is of the second type so I would pass or bid 2♠ whatever methods you have (personally I prefer that 2♠ shows the minimum hand)
1) A new suit should be game try with values in the suit, just the same as after 1♠-2♠ but with fewer HCP of course (maybe same hand if 5431 with singleton ♦)
2) I play 3♦ by respomder as mixed raise 4 trumps and 6-9 HCP or so. 2NT would be 10+ with 4+ fit and 2♦ would be 3 fit 10+ or any strong hand (since 2x would be nonforcing)
In this situations it is good to have an agreement what is pass and what is 2♠. One of them should be a really minimum overcall and the other should be a non-minimum hand still not good enough to accept the invitation. I feel your hand is of the second type so I would pass or bid 2♠ whatever methods you have (personally I prefer that 2♠ shows the minimum hand)
1) A new suit should be game try with values in the suit, just the same as after 1♠-2♠ but with fewer HCP of course (maybe same hand if 5431 with singleton ♦)
2) I play 3♦ by respomder as mixed raise 4 trumps and 6-9 HCP or so. 2NT would be 10+ with 4+ fit and 2♦ would be 3 fit 10+ or any strong hand (since 2x would be nonforcing)
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Posted 2012-January-31, 09:09
the_clown, on 2012-January-31, 09:05, said:
2) I play 3♦ by respomder as mixed raise 4 trumps and 6-9 HCP or so. 2NT would be 10+ with 4+ fit and 2♦ would be 3 fit 10+ or any strong hand (since 2x would be nonforcing)
I believe he meant 3♦ by overcaller, not advancer.
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Posted 2012-January-31, 09:11
BunnyGo, on 2012-January-31, 09:09, said:
I believe he meant 3♦ by overcaller, not advancer.
Yeah sorry. By "here" I meant where the '?' is in my auction. Overcaller's second call.
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Posted 2012-January-31, 09:41
At MPs, I think this hand should definitely go low. That means passing the double (I don't hate a 2♠ bid, but anything else is insane). At IMPs this hand is clearly worth an invitational pass, your hand has 8 losers, no controls, and no shape above what your first bid promised. It's not that great a hand.
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Posted 2012-January-31, 09:41
Ok, sorry, I believe 3♦ by overcaller should be some maximum balanced hand with no ♦ stop or maybe 5422 with 4♣s. If you have good hand with a side suit you can bid it as a game try (of course if you are too strong you will bid game anyway when p bids 3♠), if you have good hand with stop you can 2NT/3NT.
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