[jillybean]

then someone popped my bubble and pointed out the decimal place.

Here's one of the hands, IMP, NV

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Do you agree with my first 2 passes?

(I managed to give only one lesson at the sectional today )

[mike777]

first off a big congrats!

prefer 3s over 2s

now easy 4s.

[jillybean]

mike777, on 2012-January-29, 21:09, said:

first off a big congrats!

prefer 3s over 2s

now easy 4s.

So you play (1♦) 1♥ (P) P (2♦) 2♠ as a full reverse?

[mike777]

I play 2s as showing a decent hand and would bid 3s as a passed hand.

I think I have a max hand for 3s over 2s as I have passed 1h.


so a full reverse no, if so then I have at least a 4s bid.

[Cascade]

jillybean, on 2012-January-29, 20:59, said:

then someone popped my bubble and pointed out the decimal place.

Here's one of the hands, IMP, NV

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Do you agree with my first 2 passes?

(I managed to give only one lesson at the sectional today )

No. I raise to 3s the previous round. Partner forced to the three level opposite no spade fit. I should be allowed to go there freely with a fit and a few values.

[Gerardo]

well done!

I'd bid 3♠ at previous round.

[jillybean]

Yep, I erred by not bidding 3♠ at first chance.

What is the difference between (1♦) 1♥ (P) P; 2♦ 2♠ and (1♦) 1♥ (P) P (2♦) X (P) 2♠ (3♦) 3♠ ?

[Cascade]

jillybean, on 2012-January-29, 23:13, said:

Yep, I erred by not bidding 3♠ at first chance.

What is the difference between (1♦) 1♥ (P) P; 2♦ 2♠ and (1♦) 1♥ (P) P (2♦) X (P) 2♠ (3♦) 3♠ ?

Double is more flexible. Something like 4=5=1=3 would be a typical perfect hand.

Therefore 2♠ typically has less tolerance for the unbid suit. 4=6 in the majors or even 5=6 are possible depending on your range for Michaels.

The precise parameters for these bids is open to some partnership discussion and or individual style.

[mgoetze]

There must be something wrong with me, I don't see why people aren't just bidding 1♠ in the first round of bidding.

Probably related to what I just said, in my mind 2♠ definitely shows a strong hand, and given that I passed last round, I now bid 3♦ if I think partner will take that as a spade raise, else 4♠.

Of course this depends to some extent on your requirements for double-and-bid, which for me are probably rather high compared to what most people play.

(Disclaimer: I don't even know whether 209 silver points is a lot.)

[jillybean]

mgoetze, on 2012-January-30, 18:59, said:

There must be something wrong with me, I don't see why people aren't just bidding 1♠ in the first round of bidding.

1♥ can be made on as few as 6 points, I'm don't want to introduce a new suit with my Kxxx,xx,Jxx,Kxxx

[mgoetze]

jillybean, on 2012-January-30, 19:56, said:

1♥ can be made on as few as 6 points, I'm don't want to introduce a new suit with my Kxxx,xx,Jxx,Kxxx

OK... so I just don't appreciate the sheer terror of playing at the 1-level non-vulnerable when opponents have 27 HCP (i.e. a game) sufficiently. Guess I'll have to work on that.

[jillybean]

mgoetze, on 2012-January-30, 20:01, said:

OK... so I just don't appreciate the sheer terror of playing at the 1-level non-vulnerable when opponents have 27 HCP (i.e. a game) sufficiently. Guess I'll have to work on that.

LOL

[cherdano]

Why do you want to bid 1♠? The maximum for partner is irrelevant, he doesn't ever have a maximum anyway (though personally I would always double-and-bid with a hand that likes to be in game opposite a balanced 7 count with xx support). What matters is the kind of hand partner typically has - say, a balanced 11 count. Then 1♥ is a pretty good contract, definitely much better than anything 1♠ will get you into (whether you play it as forcing or non-forcing).

I don't think 2♠ promises a very strong hand, with shape unsuitable for a takeout double you still have to compete. Nevertheless, I would bid 4♠ - partner does need something to force to the 3-level opposite no known fit, I can't see a hand where we don't have play for game.

[jillybean]

fwiw, I bid 3♠ and that is where we played, making 3. Partner had a 16or17 point 45xx hand.

[jmcw]

jillybean, on 2012-January-29, 20:59, said:

then someone popped my bubble and pointed out the decimal place.

Here's one of the hands, IMP, NV

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Do you agree with my first 2 passes?

(I managed to give only one lesson at the sectional today )

And where is the decimal point.

I would have offered a simple raise on the previous round. The hand is worth that and no more.

[cherdano]

jillybean, on 2012-January-30, 20:43, said:

fwiw, I bid 3♠ and that is where we played, making 3. Partner had a 16or17 point 45xx hand.

Then he should have doubled in the second round, instead of 2♠.