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ATB - missed vul game

Poll: ATB - missed vul game (21 member(s) have cast votes)

How would you have gotten to game?

  1. South should overcall 2H (4 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  2. South's initial pass is fine, but he should jump to game over the X (9 votes [42.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.86%

  3. North should raise 3H to 4 (7 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  4. No blame, unlucky hand (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

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#1 User is offline   the_dude 

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Posted 2012-January-20, 15:03



All actions seem to be somewhat defensible, yet the missed vul game is not. How would you have gotten there?
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Posted 2012-January-20, 15:20

50% to both, for some reason both N and S pulled back from bidding a vul game.
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Posted 2012-January-20, 16:02

View Postmike777, on 2012-January-20, 15:20, said:

50% to both, for some reason both N and S pulled back from bidding a vul game.


I think souths first pass is fine, too many quacks but stronger action is required over the double. Either jump to 4♥ or at least cuebid on the way to 3 to transfer the blame.
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Posted 2012-January-20, 16:57

I agree with the previous poster. After south's first pass his actions over the double should be more energetic, either a cuebid or a jump to game.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2012-January-20, 17:44

North's double in the pass-out seat could be made with a lot less high card strength, and tho the ♠K under opener is overvalued, the 9s and 8 are working. To make up their bid in the protective seat, isn't North "borrowing a King" or suchlike from partner's hand, making the hand look pretty good opposite a 3♥ reply? If it's IMPs, I'm not even considering passing as North.
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Posted 2012-January-21, 09:53

View PostStatto, on 2012-January-20, 17:44, said:

North's double in the pass-out seat could be made with a lot less high card strength, and tho the ♠K under opener is overvalued, the 9s and 8 are working. To make up their bid in the protective seat, isn't North "borrowing a King" or suchlike from partner's hand, making the hand look pretty good opposite a 3♥ reply? If it's IMPs, I'm not even considering passing as North.


That's where a 2♠ cue followed by 3♥ comes in, not hanging pard but should get an auto raise on this one.
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Posted 2012-January-21, 22:42

I lean towards overcalling 2♥ but don't mind the pass at all, but after passing I cue bid 2♠.
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Posted 2012-January-22, 08:08

This to me was poor judgement from S. Most N hands short in S should offer a reasonable play for game. Do we really want to blame N for taking the view his K of S was a wasted value and thinking "perhaps I really have less than it counts up to"? Be fair, Spades bid over you, anyone want to upgrade that Kx? Maybe N should have bid 4 because the minor values were so strong, and see S as just 2 losers, better judgement sure. I still blame S for even considering asking his partner for the next dance.
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