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1C - 1H - 1S - 4S - 5C Meaning of 5C?

#1 User is offline   Tony1337 

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Posted 2012-January-14, 04:06

Suppose this bidding sequence occurs. Opening is 1♣, followed by a 1♥ response. Opener rebids 1♠, which responder raises to 4♠. If opener bides 5♣ at this point, is it taken to be a cuebid or a correction to play in 5♣?
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Posted 2012-January-14, 04:48

cuebid
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Posted 2012-January-14, 04:55

Cuebid of course, unless you are playing with Ken Rexford.
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Posted 2012-January-14, 05:01

Unmistakeable cue in my world, where the 1S rebid can be a huge balanced hand (JS 2S unbalanced) and partner has 13-15 support points.
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Posted 2012-January-14, 05:52

Obv cuebid. You might bi 1S with a 3 card suit reasonably sometimes, but never with clubs good enough to convert to 5C, if your clubs were that good you'd rebid them at some level. If you chose to bid this way with AKx x xxxx AJTxx which wouldn't be unreasonable, you'd pass 4S.
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Posted 2012-January-20, 11:48

View Postthe hog, on 2012-January-14, 04:55, said:

Cuebid of course, unless you are playing with Ken Rexford.

What would it be if you were playing with Ken: a transfer to diamonds? (To ensure that partner is declarer.)

As for the rest of the world: cuebid.
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Posted 2012-January-20, 11:57

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Posted 2012-January-23, 19:51

View PostS2000magic, on 2012-January-20, 11:48, said:

What would it be if you were playing with Ken: a transfer to diamonds? (To ensure that partner is declarer.)

As for the rest of the world: cuebid.


In all fairness, he is right.

5♣ would be focus-shifting RKCB. I am looking at the King and Queen of spades (such that normal RKCB gains me no information) but am missing one (or more) of the club honors. Partner responds as if RKCB, except that he shows the King and Queen of clubs as key cards.

If I had a hand where cuebidding could make sense, then I would have good clubs, so cuebidding clubs would be redundant. 5♦ would be by default Exclusion RKCB (excluding diamonds). 5♥ as Exclusion RKCB makes no sense to me, as I cannot imagine a hand where I would have a void in hearts, only bid One Spade, and now use Exclusion RKCB. so, I would assume that 5♥ was a heart cue and therefore 5♠ a "diamond cue." In other words, I would bid 5♥ if I needed a diamond control but 5♠ if I needed a heart control.
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Posted 2012-January-25, 18:50

I love it when Ken Rexford posts as a reply to a call-out. Frankly, I can never tell if he's kidding or not, but either way its entertaining to pretend that he isn't.
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Posted 2012-January-26, 08:31

Tony... if you are still around, please give us both hands .
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