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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:35



This slam was missed by everyone in a recent teams match. This was the auction at our table. Could we do any better, or did the interference use up too much space? We were playing acol, so 2♣ was not game forcing.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:37

What does 3♥ show in your system?
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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:41

Tough one. Someone has to take a rosy view of their hand. Perhaps East, with a heart control, should take a move over 4♠.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:42

Seems like 4H by opener would have worked much better.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:43

View PostBbradley62, on 2012-January-09, 07:37, said:

What does 3♥ show in your system?


Forcing with club support.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:45

View Postwhereagles, on 2012-January-09, 07:42, said:

Seems like 4H by opener would have worked much better.


I thought of this after the hand, but is my hand good enough to force to game here? (I was East.)
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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:47

Well, you have 4-5 losers. Pard should cover up at least 2-3, so...
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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:55

View Postwhereagles, on 2012-January-09, 07:42, said:

Seems like 4H by opener would have worked much better.


Yes. This would work. Didn't occur to me when I looked at this problem originally.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 07:57

Duplicate post.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 09:09

Too bad 2C is not GF, but your hand is still strong enough for a whereagles 4H!-splinter for Clubs.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 10:39

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-January-09, 09:09, said:

Too bad 2C is not GF, but your hand is still strong enough for a whereagles 4H!-splinter for Clubs.

Agreed..this hand looks great in support of even an ACOL 2♣ response.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 11:17

View PostQuartic, on 2012-January-09, 07:45, said:

I thought of this after the hand, but is my hand good enough to force to game here? (I was East.)


Yes, absolutelly, all you need is 2 aces (or diamond king) in front to make 5♣. Even if you don´t make it, opponents will make 4♥ then most likelly.

The question is if West has enough to go to the 6 level after 4♥, I think he barely does.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 11:59

It is west who knows about the double fit and two controls in diamonds. Maybe he could try 5♦ over 4♥.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 13:53

I'd have considered 4♦ (kickback clubs) over 2♥ fully expecting 4♥ to come in next at this vul, but it's possible 4♠ is the right spot. I suppose you have to bid 3♥ but I don't like it. Not sure what 4♣ is here, I'd like it to be this hand, but not sure it is.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 14:36

3H to me is a splinter in support of clubs. West should just bid blackwood over that.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 15:00

View Postrogerclee, on 2012-January-09, 14:36, said:

3H to me is a splinter in support of clubs. West should just bid blackwood over that.


3♥ is a splinter for me too.

Not sure if Blackwood is best next but whatever happens west's only bad news is that there is no Grand.
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Posted 2012-January-09, 15:14

West needs good spades from partner to make a slam, anyway. If we are stuck with the 3H bid, then 5S by West; without a heart control, East can pass. With one, he can choose a slam.

If we get to bid 4H as East, West should just launch (probably 6C). West's 4S bid was to blame in any case, so he gets the charge.
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