BBO Discussion Forums: Second round problem - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Second round problem

#1 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

  • Limit bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 8,482
  • Joined: 2004-November-02
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:England
  • Interests:Bridge, classical music, skiing... but I spend more time earning a living than doing any of those

Posted 2012-January-07, 15:58

Partner deals, you are NV vs Vul, IMPs (32-board KO match)


Now what?
0

#2 User is offline   gnasher 

  • Andy Bowles
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,993
  • Joined: 2007-May-03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK

Posted 2012-January-07, 18:00

The pass of 2 hasn't turned out very well. Knowing that the opponents had a 9-card heart fit, maybe it would have been better to bid 3?

I could double, showing a hand that wanted to defend 2x, but it seems rather dangerous with no hearts and no aces. Partner will often leave it in, expecting me to have a more defensive hand than this. The opponents apparently think they can make 4, and they may be right.

If partner is 13xx or 1453, we might do quite well in clubs. If he's 1462 I'd prefer to defend 4 than struggle in a 6-2 fit that's breaking badly, but I can't cater for everything. I'd bid 4NT, offering a choice between the minors.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
0

#3 User is offline   Statto 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 636
  • Joined: 2011-December-01
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:UK
  • Interests:Bridge, Poker, but not in conflation.
    Statistics, but not massaged by the media.

Posted 2012-January-07, 20:48

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2012-January-07, 15:58, said:

Now what?

Double and hope to take a nice plus if partner has something in or even just has their bid. If partner pulls to 5m, I don't mind, it should have every chance of making...
A perfection of means, and confusion of aims, seems to be our main problem – Albert Einstein
1

#4 User is online   mike777 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 16,858
  • Joined: 2003-October-07
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2012-January-07, 20:52

As a nonexpert I would have doubled, but this must be wrong, very wrong.


Granted I aint got no aces or even no trumps.
0

#5 User is offline   Fluffy 

  • World International Master without a clue
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,404
  • Joined: 2003-November-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:madrid

Posted 2012-January-07, 23:22

If partner leads A and hearts are as it seems 7330 around I think they can be restricted to 6 A and another ace for 2 down. but the timing must be perfect, on the other hand we make 10/11 tricks in clubs opposite a minimum.

I would double at MPs, but at IMPs I take my insurance in 5. IMO 4NT would show 3 6, or 4-7, this is too much disparity.
0

#6 User is offline   whereagles 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,900
  • Joined: 2004-May-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portugal
  • Interests:Everything!

Posted 2012-January-08, 05:22

Dbl. Pard's expectancy is a balanced 12-14 or red 54, opposite which I want to defend this.

Obviously this could turn out wrong, but that's the price to pay for not having bid 3C before :)
0

#7 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,092
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2012-January-08, 14:19

Agree that the pass of 2 didn't work out well, however we aren't robots and it's easy to look at KJxxx and be licking your chops. Additionally, LHO won't always pull with six hearts so passing could be right.

LHO was not under pressure and bid 3. I'm not looking at a lot of defense, and even though partner hasn't figured out I have a penalty pass of 2, doubling here does not seem sound with a void I also think it's Fantasyland to pretend partner is pulling our double with a weak NT with something like Qxxx which looks like the best outcome for doubling.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of partners hand was in the minors. If that is the case, then this could be a double game swing if RHO has shortness in one of the minors and why shouldn't he? He preempted R/W.

I have the wrong minor lengths for 4N, so 5.
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
0

#8 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

  • Limit bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 8,482
  • Joined: 2004-November-02
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:England
  • Interests:Bridge, classical music, skiing... but I spend more time earning a living than doing any of those

Posted 2012-January-15, 04:57

The winning action is to double, which is +800.
You can't make 5 (or 5), the only making game is 3NT.

The problem with bidding 3C on the first round is that you aren't at all certain that your hand is worth a game force.
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users