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#1 User is offline   bluecalm 

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Posted 2012-January-06, 19:26

3 judgement calls from match vs Italy which caught my attention.
All 3 problems were the same at other table so it's interesting to compare calls from Bocchi-Madala and Lall-Grue.

As it was round 8 and Italy was main contender to win the whole thing I imagine all the players took it extremely seriously :)
The opponents are Sementa-Duboin as world class as you could get.
Here we go:

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Your call ?

2)


Your call ?

3)


Your call ?

Bonus question: only one of the calls was replicated at the other table, guess which one :)
I consider all of those interesting. I tend to like all actions taken by Italians but I consider all of them very close.
Your opinions ?
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Posted 2012-January-06, 19:38

I suspect the cheapest spade bid was made on all three. I personally would pass on the first two and bid 2S with the last
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Posted 2012-January-06, 20:38

1. 1 without reservation. This collection of junk needs to bid
2. Pass. probably not the popular choice.
3 2, expecting this to be duplicated. Strong NT?
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Posted 2012-January-07, 05:59

1s quite minimum
2s relatively auto
2s see above
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Posted 2012-January-07, 06:15

1 -pass-2 for me, the one I am least convinced is the last one.
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Posted 2012-January-07, 08:23

pass
pass
2S
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Posted 2012-January-07, 09:40

P
2
2

guessing the last got duplicated.
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Posted 2012-January-07, 11:08

1, 2, 2. I'd be astonished if anyone didn't bid 2 on the third one. The other two are a matter of style.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-January-07, 11:16

Yeah, hand 3 I saw the auction as 1H 1N 3H lol. I was pretty shocked when I passed and RHO had bid only 2H. Was not exactly a judgement call. I think it was maybe the last board or almost the last board and I wanted to go smoke, and knew we had a good set, so maybe that made me more distracted but I def thought it was 1H 1N 3H. It was funny to hear the speculation that I was trying to avoid going for a number and blah blah because of victory point strategy (when really the WBF VP scale is close to total imps).

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Posted 2012-January-08, 00:38

The results are:
1)JL overcalled, Madala didn't
2)Both Bocchi and Grue overcalled
3)Madala had bid 2 and JL didn't (as he misread the bidding :), interesting to know btw, a pity vugraph archives don't contain such information)

It caught my attention because:
a)I've noticed that while Italians are fast to overcall on junk, they need shape for that with 5-3-3-2 they are in general careful and they often pass weakish hands with weak suit like this but still it was surprising to me to see a pass.
b)apparently in modern bridge this is standard overcall these days, time to update those books ?
c)I thought it's close. JL suggests now it's 100% 2. I believe partner will balance anyway with nice 3-2-4-4 or something and we are vul. I guess I am a chicken :)
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Posted 2012-January-08, 00:47

FWIW I think overcalling on the second hand has much more upside/less risk/is better than on the first hand. I would automatically bid with the 2nd hand. Grue is a much sounder 1 level overcaller than me in general, I am somwhat surprised he did it.

2S is just a completely different style than we play and than I am used to, same for the italians. I think we'd be much more likely to see it from the dutch or somewhere like that.
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Posted 2012-January-08, 11:56

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-January-07, 11:16, said:

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