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#21 User is offline   barmar 

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Posted 2011-December-31, 11:50

View Postbluecalm, on 2011-December-30, 18:36, said:

JL changed to 2♦. Heart looked like the book play, nobody could expect E having 3 spades though. I wonder what 6♣ bidder had in mind

It seems like a lead director if NS bid 6♥. But why didn't he pull the double to 6♠?

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Posted 2011-December-31, 12:51

View Postbarmar, on 2011-December-31, 11:50, said:

It seems like a lead director if NS bid 6♥. But why didn't he pull the double to 6♠?

And therein lies the rub. How on earth could we guess that was the only spade partner had? Maybe I can be justifiably accused of pushing my bad position that the diamond switch was JLOGICAL; but, nevertheless.... B-)
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Posted 2011-December-31, 13:19

RHO did not know what 4H meant
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Posted 2011-December-31, 21:24

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Thank you. I mean it's not even close imo. Bluecalm describes my hand as a "super max." What? Partner bid 3D to help us evaluate out hand...we have KQJxx opp a stiff, that is not a super max. I will say if you make any kind of slam try, partner is definitely bidding 3N next. His stiff A was huge.


Yeah, his A♥ is huge, however:
-his hand is minimum, he often has 21's there and will pass 3BA anyway
-he usually have A♥ in 20-21 range.
-he sometimes is 4-0-4-5 (I think, not sure about your system) in which case he is passing 3NT with hands like:

Here are first 10 hands which appeared: (20-21hcp, 4-1-3-5 or 4-0-4-5):
KQ32 - AQ94 AKQJ2 6D is excellent
KQT7 A AK4 A9642
KQT6 A AK2 AT953
KQJ3 A AK4 QJ963
KJ75 A KQ9 AQJ64
K765 - AK43 AKQJ6
KQT5 A AK9 A9532
Q754 A AKQ AJT84
KJ74 A AK5 AQT94
QJT7 2 AK9 AKQJ2

To be honest, after going through them I am not that sure about a move anymore :)
Sometimes we miss a good slam but I am not sure how partner should react to our move (be it 4d or 4NT). We may end up in something very silly.
I am also not sure about my assumptions about critical range here. I think that with 22+ he will generally make move himself after our 3NT and with 19 and below he wouldn't bother us (maybe with 4-0-4-5 he would). I worry the most about 4-0-4-5 which usually make excellent slam.

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Hand 2: Like I said, I probably was happy to be defending 6C X. Perhaps I should get this right, but I was about to go plus on a hand my opps were cold for 6S. This is obv a terrible habit, but it is human...I will work on grinding harder, but it probably was only 1-2 imps.


Well, I was curious how it went at the table. Not criticizing you at all, just trying to understand how you think.
Same goes for 3rd hand. It was strange to, I wouldn't even think about it but now I kinda like it and maybe I will be able to apply similar thinking to other situations.

Time for me to sleep. Happy New Year everybody.
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Posted 2012-January-01, 02:38

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-December-31, 13:19, said:

RHO did not know what 4H meant

Did that surprise you? I can understand that they might not have discussed it, but it seems risky to make a bid like that without discussion.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-January-01, 03:28

View Postbluecalm, on 2011-December-31, 21:24, said:



Well, I was curious how it went at the table. Not criticizing you at all, just trying to understand how you think.
Same goes for 3rd hand. It was strange to, I wouldn't even think about it but now I kinda like it and maybe I will be able to apply similar thinking to other situations.

Time for me to sleep. Happy New Year everybody.


You absolutely should criticize me for this one. I let my emotions get the better of me. It is well known when you have a bad board to bear down, but it's not as well known that when you're a great situation you should still maximize. It is a huge problem that I thought that way and didn't think very hard.
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Posted 2012-January-01, 03:29

View Postgnasher, on 2012-January-01, 02:38, said:

Did that surprise you?


This was one of the weakest teams, so no.
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Posted 2012-January-02, 21:40

Justin,

Was LHO your screenmate? If so, how could you have figured out at the time that a misunderstanding was on -- only from the failure to bid 6S on your right? That seems a little tough.
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Posted 2012-January-02, 22:10

When dummy hit they started yelling at each other lol
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Posted 2012-January-04, 03:38

I just wanted to say thanks - it is very interesting discussion and I think such posts are great idea.
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Posted 2012-January-04, 12:07

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-January-02, 22:10, said:

When dummy hit they started yelling at each other lol

LOL

Which again shows how important it is to keep your cool and a straight face. If declarer would have been calm and cool, Justin would have been in the dark about declarer's hand.

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Posted 2012-January-04, 12:14

I thought Justin admitted that he was :rolleyes:
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