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Opener reverses after opps intervene 2NT still weak

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Posted 2011-December-29, 18:55

Suppose you have the agreement:
1C-1S
2D-2NT : 2NT is weak (Lebensohl)

What is:
1C-(1H)-1S-(Pass)
2D-2NT : Is 2NT still weak?
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Posted 2011-December-29, 19:29

sure denies 6s but still weakish and artificial and f1 but does not promise a rebid for me.

any bid on the 3 level would have been gf.

could be say:


AJxxx...xxxx...xx..xx
to
AJxxx....xxxx...Qx..Jx for example.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 03:11

 mike777, on 2011-December-29, 19:29, said:

sure denies 6s but still weakish and artificial and f1 but does not promise a rebid for me.

any bid on the 3 level would have been gf.

could be say:


AJxxx...xxxx...xx..xx
to
AJxxx....xxxx...Qx..Jx for example.

It was MP's and I had:
Kxxxx=x=xxxx=Kxx
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Posted 2011-December-30, 03:37

 kgr, on 2011-December-30, 03:11, said:

It was MP's and I had:
Kxxxx=x=xxxx=Kxx



npp

you have your bid..2nt

expect pard to rebid 3c very often over 2nt(art/f1)

btw kind of wierd you only have one heart?????

opp never bid hearts again????
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Posted 2011-December-30, 09:51

 mike777, on 2011-December-30, 03:37, said:

npp

you have your bid..2nt

expect pard to rebid 3c very often over 2nt(art/f1)

btw kind of wierd you only have one heart?????

opp never bid hearts again????

These were both hands:
void=KQx=AQx=AQJxxxx
Kxxxx=x=xxxx=Kxx
At the table my partner did bid 2NT iso 2D, but we agreed that it was not a good idea to bid 2NT with a void. And 3NT would promise a 4cS in our system.
Therefor we agreed that 2D was the best bid and wondered if it was good to play 2NT after the intervention and reverse still as Lebensohl. Placing 3NT in the wrong hand.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 10:27

 kgr, on 2011-December-30, 09:51, said:

These were both hands:
void=KQx=AQx=AQJxxxx
Kxxxx=x=xxxx=Kxx
At the table my partner did bid 2NT iso 2D, but we agreed that it was not a good idea to bid 2NT with a void. And 3NT would promise a 4cS in our system.
Therefor we agreed that 2D was the best bid and wondered if it was good to play 2NT after the intervention and reverse still as Lebensohl. Placing 3NT in the wrong hand.




23 hcp, opp have 9H and pard has a void in spades our long suit...ya a tough hand that may play in 3c and not 3nt at some tables.

pard has a 3 loser hand, tough one to bid.
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