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A hand from our club tonight:
Left opens 1♦
Partner says 1NT (15-17)
Right passes
I'm sitting with 5♦ 4♥ 4♠
Is this a good spot for 2♣ (stayman) with the intend to pass everything?
On the one hand I don't like 1NT with the club renonce. On the other hand, there is a big chance partner will end in 2♦ with a bad spread against him.
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Weak Stayman Is this a good or a bad spot for it?
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Posted 2011-December-21, 22:14
How strong is the hand? I wouldn't be too worried about leaving partner in 2♦ since partner will usually have a diamond stop and LHO may only have 3 cards in diamonds.
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Posted 2011-December-21, 23:02
I did a simulation and opposite 15-17 hcp with 4333, 4432, 5332 or 5422 (but not a five-card major).
Partner had 4450 with seven or fewer points.
Over 55% of the time opener had a four-card major.
Less than 10% of the time there was no fit. The 5=2 fit could still play better than 1NT.
The numbers were almost the same when i removed the 5422 hands from the simulation.
I don't think you need to worry about the possibility of no fit.
Partner had 4450 with seven or fewer points.
Over 55% of the time opener had a four-card major.
Less than 10% of the time there was no fit. The 5=2 fit could still play better than 1NT.
The numbers were almost the same when i removed the 5422 hands from the simulation.
I don't think you need to worry about the possibility of no fit.
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Posted 2011-December-22, 00:44
Hi,
2C is a good bid, even when you dont have a 8 card fit, and they break 4-2,
p will know in advance, that this is a real possibility and can cater for
this at trick 1.
With kind regards
Marlowe
2C is a good bid, even when you dont have a 8 card fit, and they break 4-2,
p will know in advance, that this is a real possibility and can cater for
this at trick 1.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2011-December-22, 07:11
Thank you very much for your replies, even though I forgot to include my High Card Points. I had 5 points in the hand.
In the actual hand there was no fit and we landed in 2♦-1 with a 5-1 against us. But I understand that is basically bad luck, so this shouldn't keep me from bidding this again next time a similar situation occurs.
In the actual hand there was no fit and we landed in 2♦-1 with a 5-1 against us. But I understand that is basically bad luck, so this shouldn't keep me from bidding this again next time a similar situation occurs.
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Posted 2011-December-22, 07:30
most likely your partner should have made a takeout double of 1♦ rather than overcalling 1nt. assuming p has 3+ diamonds here is fairly safe.
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Posted 2011-December-22, 07:40
wank, with a 3-2=2=6 shape 15-17, would you X? Or even 3=3=2=5?
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Posted 2011-December-22, 08:15
popovitsj, on 2011-December-22, 07:11, said:
Thank you very much for your replies, even though I forgot to include my High Card Points. I had 5 points in the hand.
In the actual hand there was no fit and we landed in 2♦-1 with a 5-1 against us. But I understand that is basically bad luck, so this shouldn't keep me from bidding this again next time a similar situation occurs.
In the actual hand there was no fit and we landed in 2♦-1 with a 5-1 against us. But I understand that is basically bad luck, so this shouldn't keep me from bidding this again next time a similar situation occurs.
The 5-1 break was bad luck, but could your partner have made 1NT?
If 1NT is also down, 2D-1 is the same or better as 1NT-?
With kind regards
Marlowe
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