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what are your methods here?

#21 User is offline   wyman 

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Posted 2011-December-21, 12:44

View Postmikeh, on 2011-December-21, 10:53, said:

Do you really bid 2N over 1♠ with an invitational hand that includes a 4 card heart suit? Maybe you do, but, if so, you are in a tiny minority of negative double users.


I stand corrected. I'm still sorting these auctions out in my head. Sorry for jumping the gun.
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Posted 2011-December-21, 12:56

Having first taken this idea up in the table, I guess I should expand a bit on my thoughts.
Even though I haven't agreed this to be GB2NT with anyone, I think I actually should but that is because I play negative freebids in all my partnerships.
This leads me to double with all hands with 4♥ here even though GF and even with longer diamonds. Under these assumptions GB2NT is much more useful.

2NT = Competitive raise in clubs or Competitive with 4♥ and 5+♦ (Or some undefined GF hand that bids 3♥ or higher next)
3C = Distributional inv with clubs (Balancedish hands just double)
3D = Nat, GF
3H = Nat (5♥), GF
3S = GF with club support
(Could actually reassign some sequences to also fit inv hands with ♦s here)

Of course I'm losing natural 2NT as do those playing scramble here. But I think this is one of the sequences where I don't even feel too bad doubling with all those hands.

Without NFBs, you don't need to show GFs with diamonds so only separation you might want to make would be between competitive and invitational. I'm not sure if it's worth it since with most inv hands you can just double quite happily.
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Posted 2011-December-21, 17:20

Thanks Mike, I can narrow my focus a lot now. 58.97% game today, no GB2N :)
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