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5 hearts, 6 diamonds

Poll: 5 hearts, 6 diamonds (44 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you handle these hands, presuming that you are not strong enough to reverse?

  1. Open 1H then bid D (17 votes [38.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.64%

  2. Open 1D then rebid D (3 votes [6.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  3. Open 1H unless H are weak and D are strong (11 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  4. Open 1D then bid H and don't worry about not having extras (8 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  5. Other (5 votes [11.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.36%

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#21 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2011-December-13, 07:31

View Postthe hog, on 2011-December-12, 22:15, said:

Yes, but a question on this topic seems to surface every 2 weeks or so.

Based strictly on thread titles, I see two other threads in the past 18 months covering this subject, so more feedback is available at:
http://www.bridgebas...1-h-or-1-spade/
http://www.bridgebas...ling-6-5-hands/
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Posted 2011-December-13, 16:04

Noticed this by gnasher in the second thread Bradley linked:

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I'd always open the 6-card suit unless it was something like AKQxx and Jxxxxx.

That's exactly the situation that came up in the GIB thread that prompted this poll.

GIB considers the 6-card minor worth opening, but not worth bidding twice. And since it wasn't strong enough to reverse, it ended up rebidding 1NT as a last resort.

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Posted 2011-December-13, 17:28

It appears that the compromise consensus would be to open 1 if the hearts are of reasonable strength, and treat the hearts like a 4-card suit if they're sufficiently weak. (In GIB terms, I guess that means opening a "rebiddable" 5card suit but not one that's only "biddable".)
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Posted 2011-December-14, 13:58

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-December-13, 01:21, said:

For instance, before Colombus most people believed the Earth was flat.


History Fail. This is not actually true and was mostly an invention of late 18th century historians.http://en.wikipedia...._the_Flat_Earth
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Posted 2011-December-14, 14:31

depends on the high card structure within both red suits. Either call could be made
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Posted 2011-December-14, 15:49

I would often open 1H (well often for me), maybe like 40% of the time. 5 hearts and 6 diamonds is the only time I'd do this. However, I'd also be willing to open 1D and reverse lighter than most people.
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Posted 2011-December-15, 16:14

Any 6 card suit should be rebiddable regardless the suit quality.
For example: Ax AKJx x xxxxxx, after 1C and 1S, 2C is the only bid.

View Postbarmar, on 2011-December-13, 16:04, said:

Noticed this by gnasher in the second thread Bradley linked:

That's exactly the situation that came up in the GIB thread that prompted this poll.

GIB considers the 6-card minor worth opening, but not worth bidding twice. And since it wasn't strong enough to reverse, it ended up rebidding 1NT as a last resort.

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Posted 2011-December-18, 05:10

View Postphil_20686, on 2011-December-14, 13:58, said:

History Fail. This is not actually true and was mostly an invention of late 18th century historians.http://en.wikipedia...._the_Flat_Earth


That's interesting. I'll try and have a look at it.

Meanwhile change my comment to: "Before Galileo most people believed the Sun orbited the Earth." :)

(Which is in fact true if you set the Earth as your reference frame lol.)
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Posted 2011-December-18, 06:04

The Earth hardly revolves around anything (other than its own axis). It is going on a geodesic determined by all stars etc in the Universe.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2011-December-18, 07:47

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-December-13, 01:21, said:

before Colombus most people believed the Earth was flat.

And since Colombus, most people believe he discovered America.
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