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3 odd/ 1 even or 1 odd/ 3 even suits every hand has one or the other

#1 User is offline   TWO4BRIDGE 

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Posted 2011-November-16, 09:03

EDIT: Flawed analysis... thx to posts #2,3 and 4 .


Sp 10 lead

I'd never find this at the table.
Opps have their "book" ... the Sp Ace at trick one....
I win the Spade return w/Q.
I have 11 top tricks.
To finesse or not to finesse ( Clubs ) for the 12th after East plays the Club 8 under my Ace lead.

Take the A and K of Hts.... both Opps follow ( key point as you shall see later )
Clear Diam K.
Back to hand w/Sp Q ....all follow , so Opps were 3-3 in Spades.

Now play the rest of the Diams.
- - West shows out on the 3rd Rnd, so East started with 6 cards ( another key point ).
- - So West now known to have 1 even and 1 odd ( number of cards in a ) suit.

This means East must have started with a stiff Cl.
- - Why? Because it is impossible for East to have 1 odd/ 3 even suits..
- - so, East is 3 odd/ 1 even....
- - and since East has already shown 2 cards Hts, s/he must have started w/ 3 cards ( no room for 5 cards ).
- - ie: 3 3 6 1

The HOOK ( for the Cl Q ) is 100% ON !

This post has been edited by TWO4BRIDGE: 2011-November-16, 10:19

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Posted 2011-November-16, 09:15

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-November-16, 09:03, said:

- - Why? Because it is impossible for East to have 1 odd/ 3 even suits..


Why?

Can't east be 3262?
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Posted 2011-November-16, 09:16


I'm confused, why would the above layout not be possible?
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Posted 2011-November-16, 09:17

I have trouble following this. Why can't west be 3-5-2-3 and east 3-2-6-2?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-November-16, 10:15

View Postjschafer, on 2011-November-16, 09:16, said:


I'm confused, why would the above layout not be possible?

You are right.
( I knew I posted this in the right forum ).

I think I could have done it if I were able to cash the 4th Spade earlier, but
there were transportation problems.
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Posted 2011-November-16, 10:16

If this is supposed to be one of those learned "proofs" where you make everything so complicated that people miss the tiny critical step that invalids the whole argument then I fear it hasn't worked since we are all baulking at this statement:

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-November-16, 09:03, said:

- - Why? Because it is impossible for East to have 1 odd/ 3 even suits..
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Posted 2011-November-22, 09:40

Nice try :P
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