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Revisiting "Bridge Personality", part 4

Poll: Bridge Personality Part 4: miScellaneous (69 member(s) have cast votes)

How would you characterize your pace of play?

  1. I am extremely slow in the auction and/or the play of the hand; I have been warned/penalized repeatedly in the past for slow play (1 votes [1.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.45%

  2. I am fairly slow in the auction and/or play of the hand; I may have received occasional warnings in the past for slow play (10 votes [14.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.49%

  3. My pace of play is average, I normally finish on time (17 votes [24.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.64%

  4. I am a fairly fast player, I often finish the round/match early (31 votes [44.93%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 44.93%

  5. I am a very fast player, I almost always finish the round/match significantly early (10 votes [14.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.49%

How would you characterize your overall level of competitiveness at bridge?

  1. For me, bridge is almost entirely social and/or cerebral; winning or losing isn't important (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Bridge is mostly about challenging myself, results are secondary if I feel I have played well (10 votes [14.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.49%

  3. I'm not particularly competitive, but I prefer to win and am bummed if I don't do well (11 votes [15.94%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.94%

  4. I am competitive, I play to win, and I expect my partner/teammates to have a similar mindset (44 votes [63.77%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.77%

  5. I am highly competitive; I view bridge almost as a bloodsport, or as a way to express intellectual dominance; I will do whatever it takes (within the rules) to win (4 votes [5.80%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.80%

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#1 User is offline   daveharty 

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Posted 2011-November-15, 19:02

This is the fourth and final part of the poll.

Part 1 of the poll is here.

Part 2 of the poll is here.

Part 3 of the poll is here.

Thanks in advance to everyone who completes the poll, I hope it provided some food for thought. To derive your "Bridge Personality Number", simply put the numbers which correspond to your poll answers in four pairs, in the order given (Bidding, Information, Defense, miScellaneous). Someone who was "middle of the road" on all questions would be a 33 33 33 33. Someone who preferred a highly complex system both for bidding and for carding, but was relatively conservative in the auction and on opening lead, reads a lot of bridge books, loves a detailed postmortem, doesn't care too much whether they win or lose, and was an extremely slow player, might be a 52 54 52 12.

My dream scenario would be for a large number of players to use this (or a similar) tool and see whether it actually helps in determining whether a potential partner is compatible or not. For example, I am a 44 43 33 44; if I saw on someone's profile that they were a 44 33 33 14, I might be a little leery, because even though many of their traits are in close alignment with my own, I might decide it would be maddening to play with such a slow player. Or if someone who was a 23 42 22 44 saw my profile, they might decide that even though I am probably somewhat more aggressive than they are and enjoy a more complex bidding system than they do, he or she might want to try playing with me because our pace, level of competitiveness, and taste for the postmortem are similar.
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Posted 2011-November-15, 19:47

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Posted 2011-November-16, 00:35

Some of these are hard to say. For instance I like complex methods with established pairs. But I don't like complex methods with pickup partnerships or with beginner/improver partnerships (Is that a 5 or something else? I choose 5). I think my leading style is pretty average for ACBL standards, but I also think that is often too aggressive (Is that a 3 or a 4? I choose 3). On the competitive, I like to win, and try to win, and am serious about playing but I'll usually be more concerned with how I played than how I scored (Is that a 3 or a 4? I choose 3).

Overall that is:

54 44 33 43

It is interesting that the results so far are bell curves around 4 for most of the votes.
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Posted 2011-November-16, 01:13

View Postdaveharty, on 2011-November-15, 19:02, said:

For example, I am a 44 43 33 44; if I saw on someone's profile that they were a 44 33 33 14, I might be a little leery, because even though many of their traits are in close alignment with my own, I might decide it would be maddening to play with such a slow player.


A lot of these poll answers are rather subjective, so I am not sure if they indicate a person's bridge profile with reasonable accuracy. The thing about time, though, is something you can observe, and might be more accurate. But actually I am probably not alone in that the one thing I would rule out in a partner is slowness. It drives me nuts.
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Posted 2011-November-16, 01:52

I think that on most accounts I wanted to answer - depends on partnership.......

44 43 43 44
May be it would be better if the poll would be "what would you like your idel partner to be?"
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Posted 2011-November-16, 03:09

44 44 43 34

Couldn't quite make the clean sweep in 4's.
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Posted 2011-November-16, 04:18

Answering this is hard because at local level I am way faster than anyone else in the room, however I am not particurarilly fast at international level.

Also answering second question its not easy, I am a bridge proffesional, I need to win some tournaments to pay the rent. I don´t think its a bloodysport nor will I do whatever it takes to win, but I take it very very seriously.
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Posted 2011-November-16, 04:35

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I would have answered that I was very fast, but since my main regular partner definitely isn't, I almost never finish early :)
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Posted 2011-November-16, 08:23

View PostVampyr, on 2011-November-16, 01:13, said:

A lot of these poll answers are rather subjective, so I am not sure if they indicate a person's bridge profile with reasonable accuracy. The thing about time, though, is something you can observe, and might be more accurate. But actually I am probably not alone in that the one thing I would rule out in a partner is slowness. It drives me nuts.

That's true, but that's also kind of the point, at least in my mind; if it is to be a reasonably useful tool in determining partnership compatibility, then I think subjective concerns are paramount. I agree completely about pace, that can be hugely important. I was thinking that anyone who is two or more numbers removed on the "Pace" scale might throw up a warning flag, at least for me.
Revised Bridge Personality: 44 43 33 44

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Posted 2011-November-16, 08:29

View PostMbodell, on 2011-November-16, 00:35, said:

Some of these are hard to say. For instance I like complex methods with established pairs. But I don't like complex methods with pickup partnerships or with beginner/improver partnerships (Is that a 5 or something else? I choose 5). I think my leading style is pretty average for ACBL standards, but I also think that is often too aggressive (Is that a 3 or a 4? I choose 3). On the competitive, I like to win, and try to win, and am serious about playing but I'll usually be more concerned with how I played than how I scored (Is that a 3 or a 4? I choose 3).

Overall that is:

54 44 33 43

It is interesting that the results so far are bell curves around 4 for most of the votes.

Maybe a good way to approach it would be to ask, "How would I answer if I was playing with a clone of myself as a partner?" Also, I realize that some of the descriptions of the numbers won't line up exactly with people's personal experiences; in such a case I hope that they would pay more attention to the number than to my description of it, and mentally place themselves somewhere on a 1-5 axis that they define internally.

After voting seems to have slowed or stopped, I will tabulate the results and come up with an "average BP" for those who answered the poll. Maybe I'll post a list of individual BPs too, if people are interested.
Revised Bridge Personality: 44 43 33 44

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Posted 2011-November-17, 07:36

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Posted 2011-November-17, 09:27

Which dimensions do people think are highly correlated with bridge skill?

Where there is correlation, is that causal or based on something else? And which direction does the causality run?



Asked differently: if you want to improve, where and how should you be assessing and perhaps trying to change your bridge personality?
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Posted 2011-November-17, 19:16

View Postbd71, on 2011-November-17, 09:27, said:

Which dimensions do people think are highly correlated with bridge skill?

Where there is correlation, is that causal or based on something else? And which direction does the causality run?



Asked differently: if you want to improve, where and how should you be assessing and perhaps trying to change your bridge personality?


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Posted 2011-November-22, 07:46

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Very fast (too fast sometimes on defense) and very competitive.

I love putting together bidding systems, many of my books are on systems.


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Posted 2011-November-22, 08:54

Did the survey change? When I did it the answers had a range of 1-5.
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