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Robot Psychs? Funky Stayman

#1 User is offline   USViking 

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Posted 2011-November-04, 18:03

Deal #5 from tournament #561 Robot Duplicate- Matchpoints 2011-11-04 18:07

http://tinyurl.com/3vn8da7

Robot bid 2 Stayman here with Ax and Qxx saving me and 40 or so others from a likely fatal OL.

Poetic Justice was served for several of us who were 3NT= or +1 for 10.0% or 27.8%

And on the defensive side of the table how about the singleton K OL?
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Posted 2011-November-04, 18:07

View PostUSViking, on 2011-November-04, 18:03, said:

Deal #5 from tournament #561 Robot Duplicate- Matchpoints 2011-11-04 18:07

http://tinyurl.com/3vn8da7

Robot bid 2 Stayman here with Ax and Qxx saving me and 40 or so others from a likely fatal OL.

Poetic Justice was served for several of us who were 3NT= or +1 for 10.0% or 27.8%

And on the defensive side of the table how about the singleton K OL?


GiB plays non-promisory stayman. 2NT is a transfer to clubs and 2S is minor suit stayman, so all balanced invites without a 5 card major must bid 2C.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you duck the K lead?
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Posted 2011-November-04, 18:26

View Postmanudude03, on 2011-November-04, 18:07, said:

GiB plays non-promisory stayman. 2NT is a transfer to clubs and 2S is minor suit stayman, so all balanced invites without a 5 card major must bid 2C.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you duck the K lead?

Just luck you are playing against a GIB which doesn't choose the obviously spade switch. Beats me why it didn't start with spades.
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Posted 2011-November-04, 18:30

View Postmanudude03, on 2011-November-04, 18:07, said:

GiB plays non-promisory stayman. 2NT is a transfer to clubs and 2S is minor suit stayman, so all balanced invites without a 5 card major must bid 2C.

Thank you for the quick reply. I had heard of minor suit transfers, but not minor suit Stayman.



View Postmanudude03, on 2011-November-04, 18:07, said:

If you don't mind me asking, why did you duck the K lead?

I don't mind your asking. I cannot remember why I ducked. Likley I didn't think clearly and decided
" hold up" play was appropriate.

Edit PS: Is there an expanation for lead of singleton King?
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Posted 2011-November-04, 18:40

View PostUSViking, on 2011-November-04, 18:30, said:

I cannot remember why I ducked. Likley I didn't think clearly and decided
" hold up" play was appropriate.


Or you wanted them to shift to spades. Which they didn't, even though dummy didn't have 4.

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Posted 2011-November-04, 19:39

View Postmanudude03, on 2011-November-04, 18:07, said:

GiB plays non-promisory stayman. 2NT is a transfer to clubs and 2S is minor suit stayman, so all balanced invites without a 5 card major must bid 2C.

View PostUSViking, on 2011-November-04, 18:30, said:

Thank you for the quick reply. I had heard of minor suit transfers, but not minor suit Stayman.

GIB's system notes (explaining the 1N-2C-2D-2N sequence) are here: http://www.bridgebas...ystem_notes.php


Question for developers: Would it be possible to add "maybe no 4-card major" to the explanation of 2N, which currently is simply "9 HCP"?
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Posted 2011-November-05, 21:15

View PostBbradley62, on 2011-November-04, 19:39, said:

Question for developers: Would it be possible to add "maybe no 4-card major" to the explanation of 2N, which currently is simply "9 HCP"?

It should be pretty simple to add that. I'll bring it up.

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Posted 2011-November-05, 21:27

Actually, it's a little trickier than I thought. When opener rebids 2 or 2, the 2NT rebid might or might not have 4 cards in the unbid major(s). But when opener rebids 2, it actually *denies* 4 spades, since it would bid 2{SP] with an invitational hand with spades. Right now, the same rule handles all 3 cases (in the last case, the rule that bids 2 takes precedence, so it doesn't get to this rule with 4 spades); to make the explanation vary, we'd need to add another rule that matches the last sequence specifically.

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Posted 2011-November-05, 21:40

If 1N-2-2-2N explicitly denies four spades, it's even more important that this is included in the explanation.
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