[Jinksy]

Two decisions that worked out poorly for me in a match last night (teams of 6, IMPed):

1)

Favourable, dealer S.

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You play 3 weak 2s (with the formal agreement that they need only contain 5 cards in this position)

What's your call?

2)

Which if any of the calls by S do you disagree with on the hand below?

You formally play light openings in this position (as weak as about 7 if the suit is headed by AK and looks like a lead you want), and 14-16 NT.

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[BunnyGo]

1) I would pass. 2D is my second choice.

2) I do not like this 1NT. Not even close, and I'm all for off-shape NT. The bid was so bad that South could do nothing but pass afterwards.

[rhm]

1) Pass
2) Not surprised that this decision did not work.

I would not have opened 1NT
I would have bid 3♣ over 2♠.
East's better minor seems to be ♦ and West does not have minors.
Of course 3♣ is risky, but indications are that you will find some ♣ and some values in dummy.
It would be useful to know more about opponents methods, e.g. what a direct 2♠ over the 2♣ bid would have meant.
If this is still pass or correct, indications are that East does not want to get to the 3 level with his minor suit holding.

Rainer Herrmann

[paulg]

1) Pass. Second choice is pass.

2) I don't mind 1NT at all, it seems the normal action. However, having made the opponents guess, I would let them play in two spades. The danger of three clubs is that West might appreciate that his partner has working cards and they'll bid more.

[Jinksy]

rhm, on 2011-October-28, 05:23, said:

It would be useful to know more about opponents methods, e.g. what a direct 2♠ over the 2♣ bid would have meant.
If this is still pass or correct, indications are that East does not want to get to the 3 level with his minor suit holding.

I asked, but the answer was basically 'undiscussed'. The better minor bid was taken to be semi forced.

[dboxley]

Jinksy, on 2011-October-28, 03:50, said:

Two decisions that worked out poorly for me in a match last night (teams of 6, IMPed):

1)

Favourable, dealer S.

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You play 3 weak 2s (with the formal agreement that they need only contain 5 cards in this position)

What's your call?

2)

Which if any of the calls by S do you disagree with on the hand below?

You formally play light openings in this position (as weak as about 7 if the suit is headed by AK and looks like a lead you want), and 14-16 NT.

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1) Pass
I lost a team game once when pd opened 2D on this very hand, I was 4414 with 19 hcp and bid 3NT

2) 1NT
2 unstopped suits, off shape, 7 trick hand. But if you do open 1NT you are required to bid 3C over 2D.

[Cyberyeti]

1. Favourable as dealer, I'm too good for 2♦ and have a 5 card major on the side, I would open at the 1 level or pass with no strong preference whether I open 1♦ (and treat it as 5-4) or 1♥.

2. Would bid 3♣

[Free]

wrong forum...

1. pass wtp
2. 1NT is ridiculous, the rest is irrelevant

[kemperb]

1) Pass. I adhere to the "don't preempt with a LR+ in another major" philosophy, and this hand would be a game bid opposite a 1♥ opener. Opening 2♥ is way too much for me.

2) Dislike 1N. With concentration in the black suits, I prefer to open the suit on 6322. NT is likely to play better from pard's side, why hurry to open it? Once you open 1N, I think you have to take the plunge and bid 3♣, though this is much less clear.

[gnasher]

On the first one, opening 2♦ or 3♦ is fun, but unsound, especially with that spade holding.

On the second one, I agree with 1NT. I'd bid 3♣ over 2♦.

[nigel_k]

You have to pass the first one.

I wouldn't open 1NT on the second but can understand it. Definitely bid 3♣ though, preferably before they sort out which is their best major.

[the hog]

Pas on the first one. This is clear.
1C on the second, not 1NT

[JLOGIC]

1C would be horrible in first or second but in 3rd I think it's definitely a winning bid. You have to bid 3C over 2D though.

[rhm]

JLOGIC, on 2011-October-31, 23:29, said:

1C would be horrible in first or second but in 3rd I think it's definitely a winning bid. You have to bid 3C over 2D though.

Did you mean 1NT instead of 1C?

Rainer Herrmann

[JLOGIC]

rhm, on 2011-November-01, 04:11, said:

Did you mean 1NT instead of 1C?

Rainer Herrmann

Yes, sorry

[whereagles]

1. Pass. 2D if I feel like gambling, but the QJ of spades spells trouble, so better pass.

2. 1NT = yuck. What's the point bidding that? Total distortion of your hand... Anyway, having opened that, I guess I would bid 3C 2nd round.