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Posted 2011-October-19, 09:50
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Posted 2011-October-19, 09:54
Pass obv, we have ♦KT support, and where are all the ♥s?
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Posted 2011-October-19, 11:50
Free, on 2011-October-19, 09:54, said:
Pass obv, we have ♦KT support, and where are all the ♥s?
100% agreement from me.
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Posted 2011-October-19, 12:00
Wrong forum.
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Posted 2011-October-19, 14:50
when your partner opens 1n and you have a weak hand and a 5 card major
you transfer and leave it in what could be a 52 fit because it rates
to be safer than 1n. The same principle applies here---you know the 2d
bidder has at least 5 diamonds and you have no "safer" cantract to
go to so pass
you transfer and leave it in what could be a 52 fit because it rates
to be safer than 1n. The same principle applies here---you know the 2d
bidder has at least 5 diamonds and you have no "safer" cantract to
go to so pass
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Posted 2011-October-20, 02:45
MrAce, on 2011-October-19, 12:00, said:
Wrong forum.
You're right. But, fortunately, you are always in time to find another one that suits your abilities well.
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Posted 2011-October-23, 02:57
Pass. Why did I overcall 1♠ on this hand?
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Posted 2011-October-23, 09:51
Very tempted to raise to 3D.
East is about to reveal opponents have 10 tricks in hearts.
His 5xH with West's 4xH and 5xC running.
East is about to reveal opponents have 10 tricks in hearts.
His 5xH with West's 4xH and 5xC running.
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Posted 2011-October-23, 23:26
Yu18772, on 2011-October-23, 02:57, said:
Pass. Why did I overcall 1♠ on this hand?
Perhaps because you have a 1S overcall?
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Posted 2011-October-24, 04:40
If the 1C opener is sure to have a balanced 12-14, I think you should pull to 3C.
Why? Because if pard had a good 5 or 6 card diamond suit, he could have bid it instead of 1NT. Playing diamonds, even if opps let you ruff hearts it's gonna be with high cards. Besides, since LHO seems to have a trap pass of spades, you're not going to have an easy time end playing him.
In contrast pard, who has 1-2 spades, can very well have 2353 or 1453. Even a 2452 rates to play better in clubs. You're gonna look silly if you find pard with 2461 and ♦QJxxxx, but pard would probably bid the same way with
xx Kxxx QJxxx Ax
in which case you're probably better off pulling to 3C. And that's not nearly the best hand he could have for clubs.
Finally, this isn't so clear if opener can unbalanced with 5C and 4D. But in that case you're pretty much cooked anyway.
Why? Because if pard had a good 5 or 6 card diamond suit, he could have bid it instead of 1NT. Playing diamonds, even if opps let you ruff hearts it's gonna be with high cards. Besides, since LHO seems to have a trap pass of spades, you're not going to have an easy time end playing him.
In contrast pard, who has 1-2 spades, can very well have 2353 or 1453. Even a 2452 rates to play better in clubs. You're gonna look silly if you find pard with 2461 and ♦QJxxxx, but pard would probably bid the same way with
xx Kxxx QJxxx Ax
in which case you're probably better off pulling to 3C. And that's not nearly the best hand he could have for clubs.
Finally, this isn't so clear if opener can unbalanced with 5C and 4D. But in that case you're pretty much cooked anyway.
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Posted 2011-October-24, 07:30
Well this is not so bad now really as it appears 1S has stirred up some action. I love my hand for D. I do not expect my partner to have a hopeless hand having bid 1NT. Pass surely must be best, besides the bidding isn't over yet and if they want to play in H I am confident partner will love that.
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Posted 2011-October-25, 12:48
This hand is going to play horribly in your 5-2 diamond fit - where are your tricks? My partner has showed some clubs with 1nt. I have 6 of them, 3cl seems like a good spot.
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Posted 2011-October-25, 22:49
Call me a nutter, but if partner has a club stop (and he should for 1nt) then 3c is at least a trick better than 2d.
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Posted 2011-October-26, 06:01
Partner doesn't need to have some ♣ stopper, opener just showed a 12-14 balanced hand by opening an artificial 1♣... 
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Posted 2011-October-26, 07:23
Free, on 2011-October-26, 06:01, said:
Partner doesn't need to have some ♣ stopper, opener just showed a 12-14 balanced hand by opening an artificial 1♣...
Sure, but since he's bid the suit a I'd use 1nt to show a hand suited to NT with the bid suit stopped and no support for pards, simpler that way.
Against a short ♣ system, 1♣ can be 2 (I've seen systems with 1 as a mimimum) but I still use 1nt in the bidding sequence given to show a club stopper esp as opener can have a club suit and often does.
If partner has 1 ♣ then he isn't suited to NT, if he has xx KJxx AQJxx xx then I wouldn't bid 1nt. I'd bid 2d I don't believe 2 shortages is suited to NT. If he has 6♦ he shouldn't bid 1nt, So partner has either 3+ clubs or honour doubleton, still bidding 3♣.
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