[kgr]

IMP's/Teams

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North's 4♠ is 1st/2nd round control in ♠ and denies a ♣-control. North could have bid 4♦ RKC if he wanted to.
- Do you agree with your bidding so far?:
- - Not sure if 4NT is ok with this hand.
- - If partner would have given 2 Aces then we could well go down in 6♦ after a ♣-lead?
- What do you call now?

[Fluffy]

I would want to let partner know we have all keycards with 5NT, but if he might bid 6♠ in response the I'd rather not.

There is no way to bid grand with confidence here because we can't tell partner we have ♥AKQ to let him pitch a club if he hes 2 hearts, so lets just bid 6♦

[TWO4BRIDGE]

Fluffy, on 2011-October-23, 05:38, said:

I would want to let partner know we have all keycards with 5NT, but if he might bid 6♠ in response the I'd rather not.

There is no way to bid grand with confidence here because we can't tell partner we have ♥AKQ to let him pitch a club if he hes 2 hearts, so lets just bid 6♦

You don't have to bid 5NT as a K-ask.
You can bid 5S ( 2nd step; whereas 5H = 1st step, dQ-ask )
If he has the sK, his reply would be 5NT ( NT shows feature in the asked-for suit )
You then have room for a 2nd K-ask below 6-of-trump ... namely 6C.

But does partner really have all of that? sAK, dAK, cK
If partner shows the cK instead ( thus denying the sK ), the Grand might be worth a shot.

[MrAce]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-October-23, 08:43, said:

You don't have to bid 5NT as a K-ask.
You can bid 5S ( 2nd step; whereas 5H = 1st step, dQ-ask )
If he has the sK, his reply would be 5NT ( NT shows feature in the asked-for suit )
You then have room for a 2nd K-ask below 6-of-trump ... namely 6C.

But does partner really have all of that? sAK, dAK, cK
If partner shows the cK instead ( thus denying the sK ), the Grand might be worth a shot.

Fluffy was not interested in ♣K. OP already said pd denied ♣ control, thus he cant have ♣K. He just wants pd to know that we aint missing any keycards incase he can bid grand due to extra length in trump suit.

If i am not wrong Fluffy expecting pd to have 6♦+2♥+2♣ or similar hand to make grand such as;

Axx xx AKxxxx xx

[TWO4BRIDGE]

MrAce, on 2011-October-23, 08:52, said:

Fluffy was not interested in ♣K. OP already said pd denied ♣ control, thus he cant have ♣K. He just wants pd to know that we aint missing any keycards incase he can bid grand due to extra length in trump suit.

If i am not wrong Fluffy expecting pd to have 6♦+2♥+2♣ or similar hand to make grand such as;

Axx xx AKxxxx xx

Duh.... I read the "denied Cl-Ctrl" and immediately forgot about it.

Anyway, the 5S! K-ask would allow for the 2nd K-ask of 6C = "do you have anything else" .

But, instead, if South recognizes that if partner has 6 cards Diam, then the grand slam has a good chance.

South could make a clever 5H! = trump Q-ask instead. North would give a positive reply with his "extra length" since the 1D open is obviously at least 4 cards . TWO spade ruffs would bring the total to 13.... or perhaps North has the hJ.

[kgr]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-October-23, 14:14, said:

Duh.... I read the "denied Cl-Ctrl" and immediately forgot about it.

Anyway, the 5S! K-ask would allow for the 2nd K-ask of 6C = "do you have anything else" .

But, instead, if South recognizes that if partner has 6 cards Diam, then the grand slam has a good chance.

South could make a clever 5H! = trump Q-ask instead. North would give a positive reply with his "extra length" since the 1D open is obviously at least 4 cards . TWO spade ruffs would bring the total to 13.... or perhaps North has the hJ.

When I bid 4NT I thought that 6♦ would possibly go down when partner was bidding 2 KC's. So I was happy that he did not have that and passed 5♦ without thinking.
Then afterwards I was trying to be more clever and thought that ♦Q ask with 5♥ was maybe the best bid.
Partner had:
Axxx=J=AKxxxx=xx

[TWO4BRIDGE]

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