[TD1995]

I find "Rubin Advanced" in convention card of Chinese players Liu Jing-Li Jie in 2011 Bermuda Bowl. But how does it works?

[Flameous]

I think he means Rubens Advances which means transfers starting with cuebid in advancing an overcall.

ie: (1♣) 1♥ (P)

1♠ = Nat
1NT = Nat
2♣ = Transfer to ♦
2♦ = Transfer to ♥ (Constructive+ raise)
2♥ = Nat

There are variations what higher bids mean but I think this structure is what is usually meant. (I have transfers also on 3 lvl)

And if something else was meant, I have no idea

[gwnn]

That's probably it. the rule is:

everything on the one level = natural
everything that is below their suit = natural (make sure you know if it's forcing or non forcing!)
bids between a cuebid and just under a raise = transfer to the next higher suit.

so:

(1♣)-1♦: 2♣-> 2♦ (this is just the standard cue=raise)
(1♣)-1♥: 2♣-> 2♦, 2♦->2♥
(1♣)-1♠: 2♣-> 2♦, 2♦->2♥, 2♥-> 2♠
(1♦)-1♥: 2♦->2♥ (this is just the standard cue=raise)
(1♦)-1♠: 2♦->2♥, 2♥-> 2♠
(1♥)-1♠: 2♥-> 2♠ (this is just the standard cue=raise)

Be sure to know if they apply in competition etc.

[kgr]

gwnn, on 2011-October-18, 03:03, said:

That's probably it. the rule is:
everything on the one level = natural
everything that is below their suit = natural (make sure you know if it's forcing or non forcing!)
bids between a cuebid and just under a raise = transfer to the next higher suit.

We call this BS=Between Suits and RS=Remaining Suits.
BS are suits between the opening suit and the overcalled suit and they are bid in transfer.
From our system:
- there are two kind of new suits:
- BS: = the suits between opener’s suit and the overcalled suit
- RS: = remaining suits
- the BS are bid in transfer (could be weak or strong)
- the RS are forcing with a non-passed hand and non-forcing with a passed hand

gwnn, on 2011-October-18, 03:03, said:

so:

(1♣)-1♦: 2♣-> 2♦ (this is just the standard cue=raise)
(1♣)-1♥: 2♣-> 2♦, 2♦->2♥
(1♣)-1♠: 2♣-> 2♦, 2♦->2♥, 2♥-> 2♠
(1♦)-1♥: 2♦->2♥ (this is just the standard cue=raise)
(1♦)-1♠: 2♦->2♥, 2♥-> 2♠
(1♥)-1♠: 2♥-> 2♠ (this is just the standard cue=raise)

We also play this after a natural 2-level overcall, which is only (1♠)-2♥ for us.
2♠=xfer ♣, 2NT=Nat, 3♣=xfer ♦, 3♦=good ♥-raise.

gwnn, on 2011-October-18, 03:03, said:

Be sure to know if they apply in competition etc.

And we play: Rubens Advances is on if opponents DBL

[Free]

Probably a double typo, they mean "Ruben's Advances"

[kgr]

Free, on 2011-October-18, 03:39, said:

Probably a double typo, they mean "Ruben's Advances"

Isn't it "Rubens Advances"?
http://en.wikipedia....Rubens_advances

[Free]

kgr, on 2011-October-18, 03:56, said:

Isn't it "Rubens Advances"?
http://en.wikipedia....Rubens_advances

Also possible

[blackshoe]

People do love to stick apostrophes in where they don't belong. Understandable, perhaps, in the case of Michaels cue bids, since the inventor's name was Mike Michaels, But it's Jeff Rubens, not Ruben Rubens.

[Free]

blackshoe, on 2011-October-19, 09:19, said:

People do love to stick apostrophes in where they don't belong. Understandable, perhaps, in the case of Michaels cue bids, since the inventor's name was Mike Michaels, But it's Jeff Rubens, not Ruben Rubens.

I wasn't sure how it was written, and quickly copied it from the first site I found. Apparently they made a typo.

[blackshoe]

So it would seem.

[Lurpoa]

blackshoe, on 2011-October-19, 13:00, said:

So it would seem.

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Right you are.


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[Zelandakh]

The danger of looking stuff up when you do not know is that you receive false information. The danger of not looking something up is that some wanker will have the idea you are clueless. Perhaps the best answer is to just post opinions without trying to correct others at every opportunity to try and make yourself look clever.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

Zelandakh, on 2011-October-20, 03:53, said:

..... some wanker will have .....

Well, I had to look that one up ... lol

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1. a contemptible person; jerk.

2. a male masturbator.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

TD1995, on 2011-October-18, 02:20, said:

I find "Rubin Advanced" in convention card of Chinese players Liu Jing-Li Jie in 2011 Bermuda Bowl. But how does it works?

There are reasons for the confusion.

Both Jeff Rubens and Ira Rubin have devised "Transfer Systems" for the partner ( Advancer ) of the Overcaller.

Rubin's method has been dubbed Rubinsohl since it when it used over opponents 1NT openings However, it is also used for overcalls of a suit opening.

Ira Rubens also has a transfer system for opps' 1NT openings.... and it has been called Rubensohl .

But Jeff Rubens most popular transfer system is Rubens ( Transfer ) Advances over Opponents Suit Openings.

I can't tell which the OP is looking for.... except he did say RUBIN
( You can look any of them up... say in "bridge guys"... )

[kgr]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-October-20, 15:58, said:

There are reasons for the confusion.

Both Jeff Rubens and Ira Rubin have devised "Transfer Systems" for the partner ( Advancer ) of the Overcaller.

....Ira Rubens...

Adding more confusion?