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#1 User is offline   BunnyGo 

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Posted 2011-October-11, 09:11

You hold:

KJT5, 8753, 852, T4

W/R matchpoints. RHO deals:

(P)-P-(3D)-X
(P)-??

Do you bid 3H, or 3S?

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Posted 2011-October-11, 09:34

I always bid 3H here. It's the most flexible, and if the opps have a surprise in store for us, I can always bid 3S later and still be at the 3-level.

I am not worried about what to do over 4D (I would pass). If I were strong enough to push on over 4D, I'd just bid 4D now.
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Posted 2011-October-11, 10:03

3. The only time I bid up the line is when I respond to a one bid, or in certain 2/1 or F1N sequences. if I had this same hand and the opening bid was 1 and partner doubled, I would bid 1.

I have good spades, so I'm less likely to get doubled. If partner bids 3N, I pass. If partner bids 4 - which is generally doubt about strain or a big spade raise, I have an easy 4 call which shows a hand like this.
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Posted 2011-October-11, 10:07

Phil, what if you held 5432 / KQ10x / xxx / xx ?

I ask because you gave both the "i would always bid 3S in case partner bids 4D" but also "I'm not worried about getting doubled, because my spade cards are good."
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Posted 2011-October-11, 10:14

3S for me (to the OP). I am only worth one bid (and that at the 3 level) unless forced. If partner has a 3 card major it is equally likely to be either one. If I guess unlucky and choose his 3 card major I would rather be playing in Spades than Hearts.

I tentatively thought also that I would rather have a Spade lead from partner, but this is really irrelevant. Partner should not be placing me with Spade honours for the bid.
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Posted 2011-October-11, 13:24

3.

Up the line works after an auction such as 1-1 because partner can bid 1 with four spades. But it just isn't applicable here. Another way to think about it is that partner has shown support for both majors, so we can bid the same way with 4-4 after the double as we would bid with 5-5 if partner had opened a minor and shown nothing in the majors.

I might bid 3 if there was a big disparity in suit quality such as the 5432/KQ10x example but that is the only time I would do it.
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