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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2011-October-02, 00:53

Teams

Your partner has shown a semi-GF hand in H with 4 or 1 aces.
What do you bid now?
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Posted 2011-October-02, 06:03

Now 6H. It's only 1 time out of 4 that pard won't have the spade ace, and even then he's a favorite to have at least the king. Seems easy.

By the way, why not 3C to show this sort of hand? 4C isn't semi GF, it's totally GF no? I mean.. you're at the 4 level, eheh.
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Posted 2011-October-02, 06:06

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-October-02, 06:03, said:

Now 6H. It's only 1 time out of 4 that pard won't have the spade ace, and even then he's a favorite to have at least the king. Seems easy.

Did you read the alerts correctly? Partner has 4 or 1 aces of 5

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-October-02, 06:03, said:

By the way, why not 3C to show this sort of hand? 4C isn't semi GF, it's totally GF no? I mean.. you're at the 4 level, eheh.
3 would show a GF in . The assumption is that when partner showed by bidding 2, then your semi-GF in is now GF.
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Posted 2011-October-02, 06:20

I'm bidding 7N

Give partner 5 hearts to the AQ and 4 aces and this contract rolls home...
If you're feeling conservative, ask for the queen of hearts first
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Posted 2011-October-02, 06:55

I did read 1-4 aces, but had some lapse, thinking there was an ace out. Well, an easy 7NT then. If pard doesn't have the heart Q, then he's probably got 6 hearts.
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Posted 2011-October-02, 07:04

Maybe I don't understand this Multi.
Opener has either a weak-2 or or a strong NT hand .

If Opener's subsequent action showed the strong NT hand, what is the range ?
It looks to me that with your 16 hcp, the grand might be a laydown.

Edit: If Opener does NOT have the strong NT hand, then he only has ONE key card....

This post has been edited by TWO4BRIDGE: 2011-October-02, 08:21

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Posted 2011-October-02, 10:47

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2011-October-02, 07:04, said:

Maybe I don't understand this Multi.
Opener has either a weak-2 or or a strong NT hand .
We have in our multi:
- weak 6c Major
- GF in a minor
- Semi-GF Major
- NT 22-23
- NT 24-25
....can sometimes get too difficult for us
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Posted 2011-October-02, 11:27

View Postkgr, on 2011-October-02, 10:47, said:

We have in our multi:
- weak 6c Major
- GF in a minor
- Semi-GF Major
- NT 22-23
- NT 24-25
....can sometimes get too difficult for us


What do you exactly mean by Semi-Gf Major ?

When someone says that i would think opener has long good suit 7+ and shy of opening 2 for various reasons. Am i correct ?

If so then pd has something like Axx AQT9xxx Ax A or he has KQJ AQT9xxxx x x. Which one is more likely in your style ? If it was upto me, i would think pd has the first hand type.

But if second one is in your definitions of "Semi-GF Major" hand, or if you are not sure, then bid 5. No one sane should ask keycards and stop short of slam when pd shows 4 keycards. Have some faith in partner, he will understand your problem and lift with 4 keycards, unless he has extremely bad experiences with your RKCB abuse in the past.
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Posted 2011-October-02, 12:21

View PostMrAce, on 2011-October-02, 11:27, said:

What do you exactly mean by Semi-Gf Major ?
When someone says that i would think opener has long good suit 7+ and shy of opening 2 for various reasons. Am i correct ?
We play 2 opening weak

View PostMrAce, on 2011-October-02, 11:27, said:

If so then pd has something like Axx AQT9xxx Ax A or he has KQJ AQT9xxxx x x. Which one is more likely in your style ? If it was upto me, i would think pd has the first hand type.
..but we play Namyats.So the second hand we should not bid the Semi-GF.

View PostMrAce, on 2011-October-02, 11:27, said:

But if second one is in your definitions of "Semi-GF Major" hand, or if you are not sure, then bid 5. No one sane should ask keycards and stop short of slam when pd shows 4 keycards. Have some faith in partner, he will understand your problem and lift with 4 keycards, unless he has extremely bad experiences with your RKCB abuse in the past.
I wondered if anybody would bid 5..just in case.
Actually I had a distributional weak 2 and wanted to go to 4. I didn't know anymore to show this with 4 or 4 and did take the least logical - and the wrong - one.
We ended in 7X-3. At the other table our team played 4-2.
..clearly my fault, but 1% for partner because he had too much trust in me. ;)
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Posted 2011-October-04, 01:09

Hi,

I have 16HCP, p claims to have semi forcing, we play slam, and the only question is 6 or 7.
I can count 14 tricks, ... 7NT.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2011-October-04, 08:38

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2011-October-04, 01:09, said:

Hi,

I have 16HCP, p claims to have semi forcing, we play slam, and the only question is 6 or 7.
I can count 14 tricks, ... 7NT.

With kind regards
Marlowe

Marlowe... Read the previous post ( #9 ) . The 2D Opener actually had the weak-2H hand.
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