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Posted 2011-September-27, 11:38

A very strange misconception to do with Stop cards has taken root here in England.

Quite a few players believe that when the Stop card is displayed, they should sit silently until it is removed, and then, if they have a question about the bid, ask their question.

I don't think that the proper procedure here is written up in the Orange Book; it has probably not occurred to the writers that players could come up with something so stupid. But they have, and I think that perhaps the proper procedure should be spelt out the next time the Orange Book is updated. David?
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Posted 2011-September-27, 14:39

What, pray, is the proper procedure?
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Posted 2011-September-27, 17:25

When the call is made, ask your questions. The "clock" should start after the questions (and any supplemental questions) are answered.
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Posted 2011-September-28, 00:54

Wouldn't be an issue if you adopted ACBL's Stop card procedure. :)

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Posted 2011-September-28, 06:44

You are meant to look interested while waiting. Asking questions is a fine way of looking interested I believe. However this is not a universal view.
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Posted 2011-September-28, 21:16

The purpose of the required hesitation is to mask whether the choice of call is easy or not. If you have questions, you presumably wouldn't start making this decision until after you get the answers. Even if you don't need the time in a particular case, the point is to make the tempo the same after ALL skip bids, so there's no UI about whether this is a case where time is needed.

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Posted 2011-September-29, 09:31

How does anyone know that you have a decision to make when you ask questions? Perhaps you know you are going to pass anyway.
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Posted 2011-September-29, 21:11

View Postbluejak, on 2011-September-29, 09:31, said:

How does anyone know that you have a decision to make when you ask questions? Perhaps you know you are going to pass anyway.

That's the point of the Stop card rule: it doesn't matter. You hesitate the same whether or not you have a decision to make. And if you have a question, you might need to make the decision after hearing the answer. So for consistency with this case, you should hesitate after the answer even if you have nothing to think about.
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