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Did you play against the system already? what defence did you pick? can you tell us some hands?
Using the Force Dealing with MickyB's nonsense
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Posted 2011-September-25, 17:04
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Posted 2011-September-25, 18:01
We played it this weekend, but not versus Gnasher, that match is next weekend. It came up three times in eighty boards but there weren't any interesting competitive decisions [on two, oppo correctly passed throughout; on the other, the hand over the preempt had a balanced 27-count].
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Posted 2011-September-26, 13:43
I now have a two-page defence which I think will work. MickyB's team is currently in 2nd place in our division, and we're 3rd. Would it be unsporting for me to give copies of the defence to all the teams that MickyB hasn't played yet?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-September-26, 14:01
By "upvote", I of course mean "yes".
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Posted 2011-September-26, 14:07
You could just post it here and google bomb this thread.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2011-September-27, 13:18
Can you post here/email me the final defence? I'd be interested to see what you came up with (and I might be able to cause irritation by pointing out possible problems)
And of course it isn't unsporting. I am sure that MickyB thinks this opening is worth playing for its bridge merit, and therefore will gain even against the best possible defence.
And of course it isn't unsporting. I am sure that MickyB thinks this opening is worth playing for its bridge merit, and therefore will gain even against the best possible defence.
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Posted 2011-October-03, 17:44
My team played 40 boards against MickyB this weekend (he didn't get out of bed in time to play the first 20). The two-bids came up three times:
That was a swing to us, but not really related to anybody's methods.
The NS diamond fit got lost, so we gained again. A natural 2♥ opening would probably have been passed out.
Over the 2♦ opening, I could instead have doubled, showing an overcall in hearts or a takeout double of hearts. Partner's options would then have been:
- 2♥, saying he'd pass a 2♥ overcall. Now I'd probably pass, but I could move with 3♦, showing a good heart overcall with four spades.
- 2♠, showing heart support if I had hearts, and constructive with spades if I had a takeout double. Now I'd bid 4♥ - I'm expecting him to be 4-3, and in spades we'd be risking heart ruffs.
- 3♣, showing heart support if I had hearts, and constructive with clubs if I had a takeout double. Again we'd play in 4♥.
- 2NT, artificial and game-forcing. Now I'd bid 3♠, showing a heart overcall with spades on the side, and partner would raise.
Our methods here should probably be a bit different because he's a passed hand. Anyway, I'm glad I avoided the two-way double murk.
(I think this is right, but I wasn't at the table.) North started with double because he was too strong for 2♠ or 2NT, then chose 3NT to protect his diamond holding.
I'm not sure that these deals tell us much, but I'm pleased that nothing went wrong. That's it for this year, unless some of Mike's other opponents decide to adopt the same defence.
[Edited to correct the auction on the second board.]
That was a swing to us, but not really related to anybody's methods.
The NS diamond fit got lost, so we gained again. A natural 2♥ opening would probably have been passed out.
Over the 2♦ opening, I could instead have doubled, showing an overcall in hearts or a takeout double of hearts. Partner's options would then have been:
- 2♥, saying he'd pass a 2♥ overcall. Now I'd probably pass, but I could move with 3♦, showing a good heart overcall with four spades.
- 2♠, showing heart support if I had hearts, and constructive with spades if I had a takeout double. Now I'd bid 4♥ - I'm expecting him to be 4-3, and in spades we'd be risking heart ruffs.
- 3♣, showing heart support if I had hearts, and constructive with clubs if I had a takeout double. Again we'd play in 4♥.
- 2NT, artificial and game-forcing. Now I'd bid 3♠, showing a heart overcall with spades on the side, and partner would raise.
Our methods here should probably be a bit different because he's a passed hand. Anyway, I'm glad I avoided the two-way double murk.
(I think this is right, but I wasn't at the table.) North started with double because he was too strong for 2♠ or 2NT, then chose 3NT to protect his diamond holding.
I'm not sure that these deals tell us much, but I'm pleased that nothing went wrong. That's it for this year, unless some of Mike's other opponents decide to adopt the same defence.
[Edited to correct the auction on the second board.]
This post has been edited by gnasher: 2011-October-04, 01:22
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-October-03, 19:38
The auction needs correcting on the second hand. The auction on the third hand is correct.
On the first, I passed throughout as North. I was worried that 5♦, even on the second round, might be interpreted as pass-or-correct. I think I was affected slightly by a disaster on the board before, I was loathed to risk another misunderstanding. Anyway, not the best adverts for the method.
Our oppo in the previous match were using Gnasher's defence, but the bid didn't come up at all.
On the first, I passed throughout as North. I was worried that 5♦, even on the second round, might be interpreted as pass-or-correct. I think I was affected slightly by a disaster on the board before, I was loathed to risk another misunderstanding. Anyway, not the best adverts for the method.
Our oppo in the previous match were using Gnasher's defence, but the bid didn't come up at all.