[Fluffy]

The bidding starts: opponents are vulnerable

1♣-1♦ (strong-negative)
1♥-2♣ (very strong-nat 5-7)

And the bidding procceds in a way (perhaps suboptimal) where at some point you will win grand slam in clubs only if partner has 3+ hearts, but the only thing you know is that he has 6+ clubs and 0/1 HCP in hearts at most.

You have singleton heart (stiff ace), and around 20 HCP (leaving the opponents with 13-16 total). How many hearts would you say partner has?

[hrothgar]

Fluffy, on 2011-September-08, 07:50, said:

The bidding starts: opponents are vulnerable

1♣-1♦ (strong-negative)
1♥-2♣ (very strong-nat 5-7)

And the bidding procceds in a way (perhaps suboptimal) where at some point you will win grand slam in clubs only if partner has 3+ hearts, but the only thing you know is that he has 6+ clubs and 0/1 HCP in hearts at most.

You have singleton heart (stiff ace), and around 20 HCP (leaving the opponents with 13-16 total). How many hearts would you say partner has?

What do I know about the opponent's defensive methods (Presumably, I have their convention cards)
Do they overcall aggressively on balanced hands or not?

If they do, I would probably guess that they'd be able to find a nine card heart fit, meaning that partner should have 3+

[Free]

Can you give the full auction please? Perhaps there are some clues in there.

[Fluffy]

its not a specific question, because I don't expect this hand to happen again, its more like a general one, how much info do you draw from oppopnents not bidding in your shortness?

This specific problem was:

1♣-1♦
1♥-2♣
2♠-3♣
4♣-4♠
4NT-5♣


♠A8xxx
♥A
♦AJx
♣AQxx

We later agreed that since in general we don't cuebid singleton in partner's suit, on this context partner either had ♠K or extras (7th club)


Opponents... If I recall correctly they were BBO golden stars but not usual partnersip.

[hrothgar]

Fluffy, on 2011-September-08, 08:28, said:

its not a specific question, because I don't expect this hand to happen again, its more like a general one, how much info do you draw from oppopnents not bidding in your shortness?

There's a reason I prefer relay based methods over strong club openings...

[Free]

hrothgar, on 2011-September-08, 08:39, said:

There's a reason I prefer relay based methods over strong club openings...

[dake50]

That's the reason I use asking bids here.

[Fluffy]

you mean asking bids at the 5 level?, will partner think ♥Qxx is as good as ♥xx?

Anyway I don't udnerstand why everyone is avoiding the question. It doesn't seem so hard to say: My estimation of partner having 3+♥ is 60% or whatever.

[Free]

My estimation of partner having 3+♥ is 60% or whatever.

Indeed, it's not so hard...