Partner has asked just me about this hand from last night and knows I'm posting here....
Teams, W Vs R, better than average opps, I'm dealing
1C - (1H) - ?
Partner had:
♠QJ
♥AXXX
♦KQJX
♣XXX
FWIW We play better minor and open on a count of 19 in at this vulnerability with a 5/4 or better distribution.
For some reason partner doubled, which I alerted as showing 4-spades (our system but partner keeps forgetting).
My view is too strong for 2NT and it would be nice to have 2 stops for 3NT. 2♦looks OK and a rebid of NT then describes her hand. On balance I think 3NT is probably best.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
Simon
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Best bid?
#2
Posted 2011-September-06, 05:48
I like a 2H bid. He wants you to play NT if that's where it ends up (especially if you have Qx). Double is clearly wrong. I don't like a NT bid, because it's clearly wrongsiding it no matter what you have.
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#3
Posted 2011-September-06, 06:11
Agree that NT on Axxx seems wrong .. but I don't like 2H on xxx of clubs either. We don't want to encourage play in clubs unless we hear more from partner. 2♦ seems a much better description of our values.
Better question is, does our system have a way to get partner to bid NT on Qx or Jxx?
Better question is, does our system have a way to get partner to bid NT on Qx or Jxx?
If no one comes from the future to stop you from doing it then how bad a decision could it really be?
#4
Posted 2011-September-06, 06:26
2nt (if it is 10-11) is out of question
My preferences in descending order
2h if it asks for a stop
2d if it is forcing
3nt otherwise
My preferences in descending order
2h if it asks for a stop
2d if it is forcing
3nt otherwise
#5
Posted 2011-September-06, 06:30
the_dude, on 2011-September-06, 06:11, said:
Better question is, does our system have a way to get partner to bid NT on Qx or Jxx?
Often people play that cue-bidding their major is a stopper ask. Not always, but that's what a 2♥ bid may elicit (rather than it necessarily being a strong club suit raise).
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#6
Posted 2011-September-06, 07:09
I agree: Too strong for 2NT, and with only 1 stopper.
With values for game I would cue-bid: 2♥. After 1m opening that does not necessarily show fit, but tells P that I am strong enough for game, but cant describe my hand as this moment in a better way. Especially I am asking for ♥-stopper. In case P doesnt bid NT, I can still ask with 3♥ for a half-stopper.
Edited: "♥-stopper" instead of "♠-stopper"
With values for game I would cue-bid: 2♥. After 1m opening that does not necessarily show fit, but tells P that I am strong enough for game, but cant describe my hand as this moment in a better way. Especially I am asking for ♥-stopper. In case P doesnt bid NT, I can still ask with 3♥ for a half-stopper.
Edited: "♥-stopper" instead of "♠-stopper"
#7
Posted 2011-September-06, 07:50
"FWIW We play better minor and open on a count of 19 in at this vulnerability with a 5/4 or better distributionedit"
tough problem with a so so 13 I will try 2nt which is far from perfect.
We are told pard can open on:
Axxx...xx...xx....AQxxx
so I dont think we are too strong, I am worried we are too weak.
I will assume 1nt is around 8-11 or so after lite 1c openings.
tough problem with a so so 13 I will try 2nt which is far from perfect.
We are told pard can open on:
Axxx...xx...xx....AQxxx
so I dont think we are too strong, I am worried we are too weak.
I will assume 1nt is around 8-11 or so after lite 1c openings.
#8
Posted 2011-September-06, 08:46
Hi,
3NT, wtp.
You have Axxx, i.e. you have enough cards to cut of the communication in hearts,
so the stopper is enough for 3NT.
Sometimes p asks me, do I have a stopper, and I will bid 3NT with Ax or (heaven forbid)
with Qxx, why should I worry holding Axxx?
Sometimes a Jx showes up in p hand, and Axxx turns out to be ATxx or A9xx.
2D is certainly a reasonable option, but the question arises, what is your plan to
bid next? If the answer is 3NT, the stopper did not improve.
Keep it simple.
With kind regards
Marlowe
3NT, wtp.
You have Axxx, i.e. you have enough cards to cut of the communication in hearts,
so the stopper is enough for 3NT.
Sometimes p asks me, do I have a stopper, and I will bid 3NT with Ax or (heaven forbid)
with Qxx, why should I worry holding Axxx?
Sometimes a Jx showes up in p hand, and Axxx turns out to be ATxx or A9xx.
2D is certainly a reasonable option, but the question arises, what is your plan to
bid next? If the answer is 3NT, the stopper did not improve.
Keep it simple.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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