I think it's better to combine a weak hand with a game-forcing one. You can do that with each minor, so you can show three strengths of each, eg:
double = interest in penalising
2♥ = clubs, game-forcing or weak
2♠ = diamond support, game-forcing or weak
2NT = clubs with secondary diamonds
3♣ = clubs, invitational
3♦ = diamond support, invitational
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#21
Posted 2011-September-06, 13:45
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
#22
Posted 2011-September-06, 14:25
Well, I like my major suit honors enough to go for 3NT right away.
#23
Posted 2011-September-06, 14:48
gnasher, on 2011-September-06, 05:01, said:
It means you can't make a non-forcing bid in clubs (unless you're using 2NT for that?)
With double, 2♥, 2♠, 2NT, 3♣ and 3♦ available, it ought to be possible to show all the hands you want.
With double, 2♥, 2♠, 2NT, 3♣ and 3♦ available, it ought to be possible to show all the hands you want.
It also means he can't raise diamonds if he has no stopper in a major, surely this comes up sometimes?
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#24
Posted 2011-September-06, 14:56
With my pard a 3nt bid shows specifically 4 x 3 13-15. I can bid 2♠ as limit + for ♦ but it denies this shape so I'm not sure I want to. We start double with anything else.
3nt also shows my major suit cards so I'm happy going forward if pard takes a move.
That's just our current agreement with room for improvement.
3nt also shows my major suit cards so I'm happy going forward if pard takes a move.
That's just our current agreement with room for improvement.
When a deaf person goes to court is it still called a hearing?
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#25
Posted 2011-September-08, 00:08
1D 2D ?
1.2H=H STOPPER 10P+,3NT TRY
2.2S=S STOPPER 10P+,3NT TRY
3.2N=10-11P S/H STOPPER BUT NOT STRONG OTHERWISE DBL,IMPLY D FIT.
4.3C=INV 9-11P C6+ OR GOOD C5
5.3D= D FIT 7-11P
6.3H/3S=SPL GF
7.3N=11-16P S/H STOPPER BUT NOT STRONG ENOUGH OTHERWISE DBL,IMPLY D FIT
8.DBL=10P+ OTHERS
Here i prefer DBL...
1.2H=H STOPPER 10P+,3NT TRY
2.2S=S STOPPER 10P+,3NT TRY
3.2N=10-11P S/H STOPPER BUT NOT STRONG OTHERWISE DBL,IMPLY D FIT.
4.3C=INV 9-11P C6+ OR GOOD C5
5.3D= D FIT 7-11P
6.3H/3S=SPL GF
7.3N=11-16P S/H STOPPER BUT NOT STRONG ENOUGH OTHERWISE DBL,IMPLY D FIT
8.DBL=10P+ OTHERS
Here i prefer DBL...
#26
Posted 2011-September-08, 00:33
Well, as some have suggested, I doubled. I was slated by both partner and team-mates for this call, who said that some sort of cue (we hadn't particularly discussed what flavour of UvU we were playing).
Auction now proceeds as follows:
1D (2D) X (4S)
P P ?
What now?
No agreement as to what partner's pass shows.
Auction now proceeds as follows:
1D (2D) X (4S)
P P ?
What now?
No agreement as to what partner's pass shows.
#27
Posted 2011-September-08, 03:44
mr1303, on 2011-September-08, 00:33, said:
Well, as some have suggested, I doubled. I was slated by both partner and team-mates for this call, who said that some sort of cue (we hadn't particularly discussed what flavour of UvU we were playing).
Auction now proceeds as follows:
1D (2D) X (4S)
P P ?
What now?
No agreement as to what partner's pass shows.
Auction now proceeds as follows:
1D (2D) X (4S)
P P ?
What now?
No agreement as to what partner's pass shows.

#28
Posted 2011-September-09, 02:15
I doubled again. The predictable -590 with 7D cold our way.
Partner held:
Who was to blame here?
Partner held:
(roughly, pips might be wrong).
Who was to blame here?
#29
Posted 2011-September-09, 13:05
Very interesting. The straight 3NT is likely to be rested. The diamond support bid strikes gold here.