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Bar H and S Robots failure to understand a competitive bid

#1 User is offline   janeball 

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Posted 2011-August-25, 19:18

Is it possible for Bar Hearts and Bar Spades to be added to the robots repetoire of conventions?
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Posted 2011-September-08, 07:03

Can you explain those conventions? I've never heard of these and don't find anything on Google (a lot of bars though).
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Posted 2011-September-08, 15:07

Maybe this is what she means: In the auction 1M-2M-3M, the latter is not an invitation, it's just an attempt to prevent the opponents from balancing. This treatment is called "1-2-3 Stop", and the 3M bid is a "bar-bid".

See for example tip #216 at http://www.fourseaso...arold/tips.html

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Posted 2011-September-09, 21:17

I've made similar requests, particularly in competitive auctions. As an example, 3 should be simply competitive, not 17-18 here:

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Posted 2011-September-10, 00:29

I assumed the OP is referring to convention options available in the standalone GIB, not the default system card of the BBO robots.

Your auction strikes me as very strange. You don't even know if you have a good fit, since responder will rebid 2 with most hands containing only 4 hearts, and you also know you're running into a bad break. I don't play bar bids, but I'd find it surprising if players who did used them in that context. Then again, it may be easier to play if you avoid having to remember all sorts of exceptions.

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Posted 2011-September-10, 05:59

Maybe in this context:


example hand

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Posted 2011-September-10, 12:51

View Postdiana_eva, on 2011-September-10, 05:59, said:

Maybe in this context:
example hand

Excellent example! 3 is a competitive bid, making life more difficult for the opponents, not inviting game.
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Posted 2011-September-11, 11:01

Yes, that's a LAW bid.

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