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Second round cue by advancer partner overcalls 1NT

#1 User is offline   daveharty 

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Posted 2011-August-02, 18:39

How do you play a second round cuebid by the partner of a 1NT overcaller? For example:

1. (1C)-1NT-(pass)-2C-(pass)-2D/2M-(pass)-3C
2. (1C)-1NT-(pass)-2D/2H-(pass)-2H/2S-(pass)-3C

Assume opponents are playing a standardish system, so 1C promises 3+. 1NT is standard, 15-18 or so, with systems on. Is there any difference if the opening bid was 1D, promising 4+ except in a hand specifically 4=4=3=2?

I can think of several possibilities: natural (especially over 1C), asking for stopper verification, secondary transfer, etc. What is best?
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Posted 2011-August-02, 18:58

View Postdaveharty, on 2011-August-02, 18:39, said:

How do you play a second round cuebid by the partner of a 1NT overcaller? For example:

1. (1C)-1NT-(pass)-2C-(pass)-2D/2M-(pass)-3C
2. (1C)-1NT-(pass)-2D/2H-(pass)-2H/2S-(pass)-3C

Assume opponents are playing a standardish system, so 1C promises 3+. 1NT is standard, 15-18 or so, with systems on. Is there any difference if the opening bid was 1D, promising 4+ except in a hand specifically 4=4=3=2?

I can think of several possibilities: natural (especially over 1C), asking for stopper verification, secondary transfer, etc. What is best?


This is a good question. I can see value in natural and in shortness-showing, akin to your stopper verification (you'd only want to do that when you have a singleton/void I'd think).

I'd lean towards natural when they bid a minor and shortness when they show a major (or rather, 0/1/2/3/4+ card suit and 5+ card suit respectively). You rarely seem to need the shortness bid systemically since you'll either have a 6 card suit or be 5-4 and be able to introduce another suit (or, over 1N-2C;2D, be 4441).
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Posted 2011-August-02, 22:03

I play everything the same as if partner opened 1NT.
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Posted 2011-August-04, 13:41

Let's look at question # 2 ... the Transfer case.

gnasher has another Game Force toy [ http://www.bridgebas...920-1n-2h2s-3d/ ( post # 16 ) 5/21/2011 ] where 3C!( by Responder ) = artificial, GF, 2-way "multi" .

Responder is showing 5M/4+m

Next by Opener:
3D! = 2 cards M, asks for the minor
3M! = 3 cards M

[ more about gnasher's method: quote name='gnasher' timestamp='1305964752' post='547972' ]

Zelandakh also offered some refinements to the above in reply ( # 29 ) 6/13/ 2011 .
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