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Who underbid? missing 4H on both hand
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Posted 2011-July-28, 21:57
4♥ had reasonable chance on both hands but I missed both.
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Posted 2011-July-28, 22:52
The first one...mirrored distribution; requiring hearts to break, only one spade loser, only two diamond losers, and the club king onside....or both kj of spades onside (and guessing to try that) if one of those things isn't perfect. YUK.
Second one quite a bit better, but not to worry about either one. The first auction is just fine, and the second auction is a close rebid for East with (IMO) good judgement to tuck in a bit when Opener didn't rebid 1NT.
Second one quite a bit better, but not to worry about either one. The first auction is just fine, and the second auction is a close rebid for East with (IMO) good judgement to tuck in a bit when Opener didn't rebid 1NT.
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Posted 2011-July-28, 22:55
The first hand, no one underbid. Even 3♥ is not at all safe. You could lose 2♠. 3♦ and a club, although I suspect 9 tricks is about normal for this part. Perhaps if you were vul at imps, the percentage chance might make game a reasonable gamble, but I see you are not vul. Even vul at imps you might go down too many to make it worth the risk.
The second one, either player could do a bit more. West could rebid 2NT over 2♥ ... especially if 1♦-2♥ would be a weak jump shift. And East could have rebid 3♥ (non-forcng) at his second turn. I would have jumped to 3♥ at 2nd term with East and West would carry on to game. I think 4♥ is safer than 3NT. So I would fault East more than West on this one.
The second one, either player could do a bit more. West could rebid 2NT over 2♥ ... especially if 1♦-2♥ would be a weak jump shift. And East could have rebid 3♥ (non-forcng) at his second turn. I would have jumped to 3♥ at 2nd term with East and West would carry on to game. I think 4♥ is safer than 3NT. So I would fault East more than West on this one.
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Posted 2011-July-29, 01:34
I am a little non-plussed by the first hand. West appears to have a help-suit game try in diamonds so why not 3D over 3C? East will then bid 3H. On Hand 2, as Ben points out, both hands are absolute (super-)maximum for their actions. I think style comes into play here - if you like to make invites with good 10s then East is surely worth a 3H rebid, if you insist on a full 11 then West has to make a further move over 2H.
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Posted 2011-July-29, 08:33
I made 5 on the first hand(they led a spade, and all finesse on) and my p made 4 on second hand(lose 2H, CK on), and in a pair event we got 4.5 and 8.5 out of 25 on each hand. Who told me in MP you don't bid the game below 50%?? 
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Posted 2011-July-29, 09:01
1 is normal -- I don't want to be there.
2 is tough, but I'd bid 3H as east and 2N as W. So no blame: both took the low road, and this time, it didn't work. Next hand.
2 is tough, but I'd bid 3H as east and 2N as W. So no blame: both took the low road, and this time, it didn't work. Next hand.
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Posted 2011-July-29, 11:21
frank0, on 2011-July-29, 08:33, said:
I made 5 on the first hand(they led a spade, and all finesse on) and my p made 4 on second hand(lose 2H, CK on), and in a pair event we got 4.5 and 8.5 out of 25 on each hand. Who told me in MP you don't bid the game below 50%??
If the reason you scored 4.5 out of 25 on the first hand was that almost everyone else was in game making 10 or more tricks, that is incredibly unlucky for you. You don't want to be in game on that hand. But I have to admit that if I held the West hand I would have bid a game directly over 2♥ (after checking to find out that partner had 4 hearts for his raise to 2).
The second one is different. You should be in game on these cards. Responder should bid 3♥ on his second turn to bid.
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